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We live in a world where either you We live in a world where either you order [ __ ] or you deliver [ __ ] and you order [ __ ] or you deliver [ __ ] and you order [ __ ] or you deliver [ __ ] and you really don't want to deliver [ __ ] really don't want to deliver [ __ ] really don't want to deliver [ __ ] [music] [music] [music] >> I'm David Marques and today I'm >> I'm David Marques and today I'm >> I'm David Marques and today I'm interviewing Chris Rock. [music] interviewing Chris Rock. [music] interviewing Chris Rock. [music] >> Selling out arenas, it's like sex. I >> Selling out arenas, it's like sex. I >> Selling out arenas, it's like sex. I always say unless you played that arena always say unless you played that arena always say unless you played that arena twice, it didn't happen. His comedy twice, it didn't happen. His comedy twice, it didn't happen. His comedy specials in the9s and 2000s not only specials in the9s and 2000s not only specials in the9s and 2000s not only made him a household name, they were made him a household name, they were made him a household name, they were touchstone cultural events [music] full touchstone cultural events [music] full touchstone cultural events [music] full of brilliant and profane commentary on of brilliant and profane commentary on of brilliant and profane commentary on gender. gender. gender. >> Women get to have platonic friends, >> Women get to have platonic friends, >> Women get to have platonic friends, >> race. >> race. >> race. >> If you black, America's like the uncle >> If you black, America's like the uncle >> If you black, America's like the uncle that paid your way through college but that paid your way through college but that paid your way through college but molested you molested you molested you >> and the biggest news stories of the day. >> and the biggest news stories of the day. >> and the biggest news stories of the day. >> What the did Clinton do? They was >> What the did Clinton do? They was >> What the did Clinton do? They was charging him with [ __ ] I didn't even charging him with [ __ ] I didn't even charging him with [ __ ] I didn't even know was crime. More recently, Rock has know was crime. More recently, Rock has know was crime. More recently, Rock has reflected on his own life in his work, reflected on his own life in his work, reflected on his own life in his work, including his 2016 divorce and the including his 2016 divorce and the including his 2016 divorce and the unbelievable moment when Will Smith unbelievable moment when Will Smith unbelievable moment when Will Smith slapped him [music] live on stage at the slapped him [music] live on stage at the slapped him [music] live on stage at the Oscars. Oscars. Oscars. >> Will Smith played Muhammad Ali in a >> Will Smith played Muhammad Ali in a >> Will Smith played Muhammad Ali in a movie? You think I auditioned for that movie? You think I auditioned for that movie? You think I auditioned for that part?

part? part? >> Beyond [music] standup, Rock has built a >> Beyond [music] standup, Rock has built a >> Beyond [music] standup, Rock has built a successful Hollywood career acting and successful Hollywood career acting and successful Hollywood career acting and directing feature films, including directing feature films, including directing feature films, including 2014's critically acclaimed Top Five. 2014's critically acclaimed Top Five. 2014's critically acclaimed Top Five. Now Rock is back with the movie Misty Now Rock is back with the movie Misty Now Rock is back with the movie Misty Green, which he both wrote and directed Green, which he both wrote and directed Green, which he both wrote and directed about a struggling actress played by about a struggling actress played by about a struggling actress played by Rosalind Elazar, who gives a star- Rosalind Elazar, who gives a star- Rosalind Elazar, who gives a star- makingaking performance. makingaking performance. makingaking performance. >> Hello. I would like to [music] finish my >> Hello. I would like to [music] finish my >> Hello. I would like to [music] finish my audition if it isn't too much trouble. audition if it isn't too much trouble. audition if it isn't too much trouble. All right. All right. All right. >> I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. >> I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. >> I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. I wanted to do a movie [music] about the I wanted to do a movie [music] about the I wanted to do a movie [music] about the expiration dates we all have. Here's my expiration dates we all have. Here's my expiration dates we all have. Here's my conversation with Chris Rock. But first, conversation with Chris Rock. But first, conversation with Chris Rock. But first, a quick message. If you're not a a quick message. If you're not a a quick message. If you're not a subscriber, we have some news for you. subscriber, we have some news for you. subscriber, we have some news for you. [music] You can now explore the Times [music] You can now explore the Times [music] You can now explore the Times for free without payw walls during your for free without payw walls during your for free without payw walls during your first month in the New York Times app. first month in the New York Times app. first month in the New York Times app. Just download the app and we hope you Just download the app and we hope you Just download the app and we hope you enjoy it. Okay, on to the interview. enjoy it. Okay, on to the interview. enjoy it. Okay, on to the interview. [music] >> Ready to go? Should we? Chris, thank you >> Ready to go? Should we? Chris, thank you very much. very much. very much. >> What do you got FOR WHAT DO YOU GOT for >> What do you got FOR WHAT DO YOU GOT for >> What do you got FOR WHAT DO YOU GOT for me, man? What do you want? me, man? What do you want? me, man? What do you want? >> So, I want to start with a question >> So, I want to start with a question >> So, I want to start with a question about the new movie Misty Green. about the new movie Misty Green. about the new movie Misty Green. >> About the new movie Misty Green. >> About the new movie Misty Green. >> About the new movie Misty Green. >> Misty Green, which you know to to me the >> Misty Green, which you know to to me the >> Misty Green, which you know to to me the the movie it's thematically very rich.

the movie it's thematically very rich. the movie it's thematically very rich. There's a lot going on, but one of the There's a lot going on, but one of the There's a lot going on, but one of the themes for me was really status. You themes for me was really status. You themes for me was really status. You know, who who has it, who loses it when know, who who has it, who loses it when know, who who has it, who loses it when it comes to success, money, it comes to success, money, it comes to success, money, relationships, and I I wanted to know relationships, and I I wanted to know relationships, and I I wanted to know when when do you feel insecure about when when do you feel insecure about when when do you feel insecure about your status? your status? your status? >> When do I I mean, I've been doing a lot >> When do I I mean, I've been doing a lot >> When do I I mean, I've been doing a lot of therapy the last few years, like of therapy the last few years, like of therapy the last few years, like postcoid. Uh, and a lot of it's about postcoid. Uh, and a lot of it's about postcoid. Uh, and a lot of it's about not feeling insecure. A lot of it is not feeling insecure. A lot of it is not feeling insecure. A lot of it is about you're enough. about you're enough. about you're enough. You are enough, sir. Um, You are enough, sir. Um, You are enough, sir. Um, but but but yeah, I don't ever really feel insecure yeah, I don't ever really feel insecure yeah, I don't ever really feel insecure about my status, per se. Occasionally, about my status, per se. Occasionally, about my status, per se. Occasionally, I'll meet people that are obviously I'll meet people that are obviously I'll meet people that are obviously working harder than me, and that'll make working harder than me, and that'll make working harder than me, and that'll make me feel insecure. You know, Adam me feel insecure. You know, Adam me feel insecure. You know, Adam Sandler, Rick Rubin, you're like, "What? Sandler, Rick Rubin, you're like, "What? Sandler, Rick Rubin, you're like, "What? What are you doing? How many things are What are you doing? How many things are What are you doing? How many things are you doing right now? Um, so I can that you doing right now? Um, so I can that you doing right now? Um, so I can that can make me a little insecure.

can make me a little insecure. can make me a little insecure. Uh, some people are better with their Uh, some people are better with their Uh, some people are better with their kids than me. I I think I'm a good dad. kids than me. I I think I'm a good dad. kids than me. I I think I'm a good dad. >> You kept them off the poll. >> You kept them off the poll. >> You kept them off the poll. >> I I've kept them off the poll, but >> I I've kept them off the poll, but >> I I've kept them off the poll, but they're on Only Fans. No. Uh they're on Only Fans. No. Uh they're on Only Fans. No. Uh uh sometimes you see like a loving uh sometimes you see like a loving uh sometimes you see like a loving relationship and you get like insecure. relationship and you get like insecure. relationship and you get like insecure. You're like, you ever been single and You're like, you ever been single and You're like, you ever been single and you see like a homeless couple and you see like a homeless couple and you see like a homeless couple and you're like, [laughter] you're like, [laughter] you're like, [laughter] they got it. they got it. they got it. One thing that was interesting to me One thing that was interesting to me One thing that was interesting to me about the movie was that, you know, it's about the movie was that, you know, it's about the movie was that, you know, it's it's a movie that both makes Hollywood it's a movie that both makes Hollywood it's a movie that both makes Hollywood feel very appealing because of, you feel very appealing because of, you feel very appealing because of, you know, the talent that you see and and know, the talent that you see and and know, the talent that you see and and the love that people have for doing what the love that people have for doing what the love that people have for doing what they do, but also makes Hollywood seem they do, but also makes Hollywood seem they do, but also makes Hollywood seem awful, like like truly truly racist, awful, like like truly truly racist, awful, like like truly truly racist, sexist, you know, sort of chips away at sexist, you know, sort of chips away at sexist, you know, sort of chips away at your soul constantly. [laughter] You your soul constantly. [laughter] You your soul constantly. [laughter] You know what I'm talking about, right? and know what I'm talking about, right? and know what I'm talking about, right? and and has your experience of of Hollywood and has your experience of of Hollywood and has your experience of of Hollywood sort of inhabited both those spaces sort of inhabited both those spaces sort of inhabited both those spaces where on the one hand you're you're where on the one hand you're you're where on the one hand you're you're obviously have had an incredible career.

obviously have had an incredible career. obviously have had an incredible career. On the other hand, it seems like very On the other hand, it seems like very On the other hand, it seems like very hard not to kind of go through that hard not to kind of go through that hard not to kind of go through that career kind of unscathed. career kind of unscathed. career kind of unscathed. >> I mean, you're not going to get uh how >> I mean, you're not going to get uh how >> I mean, you're not going to get uh how bad Hollywood is uh saliloquy from me. I bad Hollywood is uh saliloquy from me. I bad Hollywood is uh saliloquy from me. I always I always say every generation always I always say every generation always I always say every generation laughs at their children's racism. laughs at their children's racism. laughs at their children's racism. So my kids are like this is racism. I'm So my kids are like this is racism. I'm So my kids are like this is racism. I'm like and what I would call racist my like and what I would call racist my like and what I would call racist my mother would laugh at. You know what I mother would laugh at. You know what I mother would laugh at. You know what I mean? Um are there bad parts about mean? Um are there bad parts about mean? Um are there bad parts about Hollywood? Yes. Hollywood? Yes. Hollywood? Yes. But But But it's still better than a normal job by a it's still better than a normal job by a it's still better than a normal job by a lot. Okay. By a a ton, man. I wouldn't lot. Okay. By a a ton, man. I wouldn't lot. Okay. By a a ton, man. I wouldn't change it for anything. I change it for anything. I change it for anything. I uh you know, I've said before, I used to uh you know, I've said before, I used to uh you know, I've said before, I used to work at Red Lobster. I used to work at a work at Red Lobster. I used to work at a work at Red Lobster. I used to work at a I used to work at a home for uh a I used to work at a home for uh a I used to work at a home for uh a autistic, severely autistic mid adults autistic, severely autistic mid adults autistic, severely autistic mid adults that had like the night shift and you that had like the night shift and you that had like the night shift and you had to like make the food. It was kind had to like make the food. It was kind had to like make the food. It was kind of like being a big brother cuz I'm like of like being a big brother cuz I'm like of like being a big brother cuz I'm like the oldest of seven. and you make the the oldest of seven. and you make the the oldest of seven. and you make the sometimes you have to change a diaper or sometimes you have to change a diaper or sometimes you have to change a diaper or whatever of a grown kind of man like so whatever of a grown kind of man like so whatever of a grown kind of man like so what if I can't get a sketch on so what what if I can't get a sketch on so what what if I can't get a sketch on so what if somebody's not you know doesn't if somebody's not you know doesn't if somebody's not you know doesn't respond to my script I used to wipe respond to my script I used to wipe respond to my script I used to wipe people's asses dude

people's asses dude people's asses dude >> but the question of of compromises comes >> but the question of of compromises comes >> but the question of of compromises comes up throughout the film of up throughout the film of up throughout the film of >> there's compromises in everything >> there's compromises in everything >> there's compromises in everything >> right so what are compromises that >> right so what are compromises that >> right so what are compromises that you've had to make in your career you've had to make in your career you've had to make in your career >> I I mean, honestly, >> I I mean, honestly, >> I I mean, honestly, I came up in cable television. I could I came up in cable television. I could I came up in cable television. I could kind of say what I want. kind of say what I want. kind of say what I want. >> Life is CATCHING UP TO JAIL. [ __ ] IF >> Life is CATCHING UP TO JAIL. [ __ ] IF >> Life is CATCHING UP TO JAIL. [ __ ] IF YOU LIVE IN AN OLD PROJECT, A NEW JAIL YOU LIVE IN AN OLD PROJECT, A NEW JAIL YOU LIVE IN AN OLD PROJECT, A NEW JAIL AIN'T THAT BAD. AIN'T THAT BAD. AIN'T THAT BAD. >> YOU know what I mean? Like, honestly, >> YOU know what I mean? Like, honestly, >> YOU know what I mean? Like, honestly, there's be more. I don't know if I could there's be more. I don't know if I could there's be more. I don't know if I could do Bring the Pain today. I'd have to do Bring the Pain today. I'd have to do Bring the Pain today. I'd have to compromise. compromise. compromise. But in 96, But in 96, But in 96, I did pretty much whatever I wanted. So, I did pretty much whatever I wanted. So, I did pretty much whatever I wanted. So, I haven't had to compromise myself as a I haven't had to compromise myself as a I haven't had to compromise myself as a standup. standup. standup. I've been able to make some weird I've been able to make some weird I've been able to make some weird movies, dude. I made Pooty Tang, you movies, dude. I made Pooty Tang, you movies, dude. I made Pooty Tang, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I got know what I mean? Like, you know, I got know what I mean? Like, you know, I got my own things that I've directed and I my own things that I've directed and I my own things that I've directed and I got side pro I'm I've been very got side pro I'm I've been very got side pro I'm I've been very fortunate. fortunate. fortunate. Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, you know, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, you know, Spike Lee, Eddie Murphy, you know, Denzel, all these great people kind of Denzel, all these great people kind of Denzel, all these great people kind of opened up a door.

opened up a door. opened up a door. And I've been able to have a really And I've been able to have a really And I've been able to have a really weird, weird, weird, sometimes bad, but definitely like sometimes bad, but definitely like sometimes bad, but definitely like nobody no one will ever say he didn't nobody no one will ever say he didn't nobody no one will ever say he didn't try. You know, I did a documentary about try. You know, I did a documentary about try. You know, I did a documentary about hair shows, dude. You know what I mean? hair shows, dude. You know what I mean? hair shows, dude. You know what I mean? like, so I I'm the last guy to complain. like, so I I'm the last guy to complain. like, so I I'm the last guy to complain. >> A second ago, um you said, uh you know, >> A second ago, um you said, uh you know, >> A second ago, um you said, uh you know, I don't know if I'd be able to make uh I don't know if I'd be able to make uh I don't know if I'd be able to make uh um bring the pain today. And that's um bring the pain today. And that's um bring the pain today. And that's that's kind of a sentiment that um I see that's kind of a sentiment that um I see that's kind of a sentiment that um I see a lot. You know, people, comedians, or a lot. You know, people, comedians, or a lot. You know, people, comedians, or even just artists saying, "Yeah, you even just artists saying, "Yeah, you even just artists saying, "Yeah, you know, I don't know if I'd be able to know, I don't know if I'd be able to know, I don't know if I'd be able to make whatever it was they made, you make whatever it was they made, you make whatever it was they made, you know, 30 years ago today." And I wonder, know, 30 years ago today." And I wonder, know, 30 years ago today." And I wonder, do you do you really think that's true? do you do you really think that's true? do you do you really think that's true? Because I look around at comedy and the Because I look around at comedy and the Because I look around at comedy and the culture, I'm like, "Okay, pretty make culture, I'm like, "Okay, pretty make culture, I'm like, "Okay, pretty make it." Here's the difference. The it." Here's the difference. The it." Here's the difference. The difference is, difference is, difference is, >> you're right. You know, two things can >> you're right. You know, two things can >> you're right. You know, two things can be true. be true. be true. >> I'd be able to make it. >> I'd be able to make it. >> I'd be able to make it. >> It would be huge. A matter of fact, you >> It would be huge. A matter of fact, you >> It would be huge. A matter of fact, you know what? I'll go even further. Bring know what? I'll go even further. Bring know what? I'll go even further. Bring the pain would be bigger today.

the pain would be bigger today. the pain would be bigger today. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> You know why it would be bigger today? >> You know why it would be bigger today? >> You know why it would be bigger today? >> Cuz you wouldn't be able to report on >> Cuz you wouldn't be able to report on >> Cuz you wouldn't be able to report on it. it. it. >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> You You wouldn't be able to say it was >> You You wouldn't be able to say it was >> You You wouldn't be able to say it was great. The New York Times wouldn't be be great. The New York Times wouldn't be be great. The New York Times wouldn't be be able to say it. It wouldn't be on able to say it. It wouldn't be on able to say it. It wouldn't be on Netflix. It wouldn't be on any normal Netflix. It wouldn't be on any normal Netflix. It wouldn't be on any normal thing. So, I would it would be like like thing. So, I would it would be like like thing. So, I would it would be like like like the Shane Gillis thing which would like the Shane Gillis thing which would like the Shane Gillis thing which would actually elevate it. You know what I actually elevate it. You know what I actually elevate it. You know what I mean? Like I mean? Like I mean? Like I you know I'm not here. You know the New you know I'm not here. You know the New you know I'm not here. You know the New York Time New York Times got a weird York Time New York Times got a weird York Time New York Times got a weird thing with comedy thing with comedy thing with comedy with Go for it. Yeah. Not even with with Go for it. Yeah. Not even with with Go for it. Yeah. Not even with comedy. It's just like I I you know I comedy. It's just like I I you know I comedy. It's just like I I you know I you know the times the the the journal you know the times the the the journal you know the times the the the journal like they ignore the nuance. like they ignore the nuance. like they ignore the nuance. So they like something really cons you So they like something really cons you So they like something really cons you know it's like okay this is a manosphere know it's like okay this is a manosphere know it's like okay this is a manosphere conservative thing or this is a really conservative thing or this is a really conservative thing or this is a really kind of wokey woke thing and all the kind of wokey woke thing and all the kind of wokey woke thing and all the people in the middle they kind of people in the middle they kind of people in the middle they kind of ignore. Uh, I remember a couple of years ignore. Uh, I remember a couple of years ignore. Uh, I remember a couple of years ago, I don't know, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, I don't know, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, I don't know, 5 years ago, 10 years ago, Bill Burr sold out Madison Square ago, Bill Burr sold out Madison Square ago, Bill Burr sold out Madison Square Garden.

Garden. Garden. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> First night you saw at Madison Square >> First night you saw at Madison Square >> First night you saw at Madison Square Garden. Garden. Garden. >> In the history of Madison Square Garden, >> In the history of Madison Square Garden, >> In the history of Madison Square Garden, it's probably more now, but at that it's probably more now, but at that it's probably more now, but at that point, I don't know, eight comedians had point, I don't know, eight comedians had point, I don't know, eight comedians had sold out Madison Square Garden, you sold out Madison Square Garden, you sold out Madison Square Garden, you know. And by the way, selling out know. And by the way, selling out know. And by the way, selling out arenas, it's it's like it's like sex, I arenas, it's it's like it's like sex, I arenas, it's it's like it's like sex, I always say. How? So, always say. How? So, always say. How? So, >> unless you've done it, unless you played >> unless you've done it, unless you played >> unless you've done it, unless you played that arena twice, it didn't happen. that arena twice, it didn't happen. that arena twice, it didn't happen. [laughter] Okay. If you didn't have sex with her Okay. If you didn't have sex with her twice, to her it never happened. twice, to her it never happened. twice, to her it never happened. [laughter] So, and that's what playing [laughter] So, and that's what playing [laughter] So, and that's what playing in an arena is, right? Anyway, in an arena is, right? Anyway, in an arena is, right? Anyway, Bill Bird plays Madison Square Garden. I Bill Bird plays Madison Square Garden. I Bill Bird plays Madison Square Garden. I wake up the next day. I want to read the wake up the next day. I want to read the wake up the next day. I want to read the review. There's no review. review. There's no review. review. There's no review. There's no review because Bill Burr is There's no review because Bill Burr is There's no review because Bill Burr is this guy that walks a crazy line. Is he this guy that walks a crazy line. Is he this guy that walks a crazy line. Is he conservative? conservative? conservative? Maybe he's conservative. Wait a minute.

Maybe he's conservative. Wait a minute. Maybe he's conservative. Wait a minute. He's got a black wife. Oh, he's sexist. He's got a black wife. Oh, he's sexist. He's got a black wife. Oh, he's sexist. Wait a minute. There's a lot of women Wait a minute. There's a lot of women Wait a minute. There's a lot of women here. Like you guys only cover you don't here. Like you guys only cover you don't here. Like you guys only cover you don't you're not [ __ ] with that middle. you're not [ __ ] with that middle. you're not [ __ ] with that middle. Um, Um, Um, >> so anyway, bring the pain because it >> so anyway, bring the pain because it >> so anyway, bring the pain because it would be actually less lauded would be would be actually less lauded would be would be actually less lauded would be bigger today bigger today bigger today >> because it would have some sort of >> because it would have some sort of >> because it would have some sort of taboo. taboo. taboo. >> It would have a taboo to it where before >> It would have a taboo to it where before >> It would have a taboo to it where before when I did it, I got all these when I did it, I got all these when I did it, I got all these accolades. accolades. accolades. >> Yeah. But don't you think there's >> Yeah. But don't you think there's >> Yeah. But don't you think there's something in comedy that happened? I I something in comedy that happened? I I something in comedy that happened? I I think since think since think since Trump got elected the first time where Trump got elected the first time where Trump got elected the first time where it it seems like the comedians a lot of it it seems like the comedians a lot of it it seems like the comedians a lot of comedians I'm you know infinitely more comedians I'm you know infinitely more comedians I'm you know infinitely more than about comedy than I do and about than about comedy than I do and about than about comedy than I do and about the but but where comedians feel like the but but where comedians feel like the but but where comedians feel like they have to subtly or overtly signal they have to subtly or overtly signal they have to subtly or overtly signal what their politics are like sort of what their politics are like sort of what their politics are like sort of wink to the audience so that the wink to the audience so that the wink to the audience so that the audience kind of knows where to put them audience kind of knows where to put them audience kind of knows where to put them even if the place they're putting them even if the place they're putting them even if the place they're putting them is guy who you know can see both sides is guy who you know can see both sides is guy who you know can see both sides and I feel like audiences are looking and I feel like audiences are looking and I feel like audiences are looking for it now and comedians for it now and comedians for it now and comedians >> maybe. I mean, I'm trying to decide if >> maybe. I mean, I'm trying to decide if >> maybe. I mean, I'm trying to decide if I'm going to go back out now. I'm just I'm going to go back out now. I'm just I'm going to go back out now. I'm just like, do I want to do I, you know, do like, do I want to do I, you know, do like, do I want to do I, you know, do why would you do I want to jump in this why would you do I want to jump in this why would you do I want to jump in this bed?

bed? bed? >> Uh, I don't know. I'm I'm loving >> Uh, I don't know. I'm I'm loving >> Uh, I don't know. I'm I'm loving directing. Yeah, actually. I'm actually directing. Yeah, actually. I'm actually directing. Yeah, actually. I'm actually like, oh, maybe I should like like, oh, maybe I should like like, oh, maybe I should like >> do a run of pictures. >> do a run of pictures. >> do a run of pictures. >> But I don't know. We We used to only >> But I don't know. We We used to only >> But I don't know. We We used to only talk to the best of the best. We used to talk to the best of the best. We used to talk to the best of the best. We used to only talk to the person singing. We used only talk to the person singing. We used only talk to the person singing. We used to not even talk to the producer. Now, to not even talk to the producer. Now, to not even talk to the producer. Now, everybody's got to say something and you everybody's got to say something and you everybody's got to say something and you know, some of it's boring. A lot of it's know, some of it's boring. A lot of it's know, some of it's boring. A lot of it's boring. boring. boring. >> Can I just ask now a question about >> Can I just ask now a question about >> Can I just ask now a question about Rosalind Elazar and her performance in Rosalind Elazar and her performance in Rosalind Elazar and her performance in Misty Green? Really? I you know, I knew Misty Green? Really? I you know, I knew Misty Green? Really? I you know, I knew her work from Slow Horses. That's where her work from Slow Horses. That's where her work from Slow Horses. That's where I'd seen her before. But it kind of an I'd seen her before. But it kind of an I'd seen her before. But it kind of an incredible performance. You realize she incredible performance. You realize she incredible performance. You realize she can sing amazingly. You've got one can sing amazingly. You've got one can sing amazingly. You've got one [singing] night only. One night only. [singing] night only. One night only. [singing] night only. One night only. You'll be the only [singing] one. You'll be the only [singing] one. You'll be the only [singing] one. The different emotional levels she's The different emotional levels she's The different emotional levels she's able to bring to the to the character, able to bring to the to the character, able to bring to the to the character, but can you talk about what she brought but can you talk about what she brought but can you talk about what she brought to Misty that wasn't in the script to Misty that wasn't in the script to Misty that wasn't in the script initially?

initially? initially? >> She just brought a humanity to it. I >> She just brought a humanity to it. I >> She just brought a humanity to it. I mean, here's what I say when I'm mean, here's what I say when I'm mean, here's what I say when I'm directing. It's my movie. It's your directing. It's my movie. It's your directing. It's my movie. It's your part. You know what I mean? And it was part. You know what I mean? And it was part. You know what I mean? And it was hers, man. She You know what? Put it hers, man. She You know what? Put it hers, man. She You know what? Put it this way. I I met Roslin about a month this way. I I met Roslin about a month this way. I I met Roslin about a month ago. I never But for the months we're ago. I never But for the months we're ago. I never But for the months we're shooting Misty. There was only Misty. shooting Misty. There was only Misty. shooting Misty. There was only Misty. You know what I mean? So she was Misty. You know what I mean? So she was Misty. You know what I mean? So she was Misty. When she came in on the audition, she When she came in on the audition, she When she came in on the audition, she was Misty through the whole the whole was Misty through the whole the whole was Misty through the whole the whole filming process. She never a she never filming process. She never a she never filming process. She never a she never asked me one question that didn't have asked me one question that didn't have asked me one question that didn't have to do with character. to do with character. to do with character. So, she's So, she's So, she's we will work again. we will work again. we will work again. >> And there's a scene in the film where >> And there's a scene in the film where >> And there's a scene in the film where her charact This is not a spoiler at her charact This is not a spoiler at her charact This is not a spoiler at all, but there's a scene in the film all, but there's a scene in the film all, but there's a scene in the film where her character um is performing at where her character um is performing at where her character um is performing at kind of a a nightclub and she like she kind of a a nightclub and she like she kind of a a nightclub and she like she just is an incredible singer also, which just is an incredible singer also, which just is an incredible singer also, which is something that you didn't realize up is something that you didn't realize up is something that you didn't realize up to that point in the movie. And and when to that point in the movie. And and when to that point in the movie. And and when I saw that, I was thinking about how in I saw that, I was thinking about how in I saw that, I was thinking about how in the performing arts, the the amount of the performing arts, the the amount of the performing arts, the the amount of just pure talent that that's out there just pure talent that that's out there just pure talent that that's out there that is not, you know, these people are that is not, you know, these people are that is not, you know, these people are not necessarily household names. They're not necessarily household names. They're not necessarily household names. They're just trying to trying to make a living.

just trying to trying to make a living. just trying to trying to make a living. It's really staggering to think about. It's really staggering to think about. It's really staggering to think about. >> That's a lot of talent. That's a lot of >> That's a lot of talent. That's a lot of >> That's a lot of talent. That's a lot of talent. talent. talent. >> And do you feel like you understand >> And do you feel like you understand >> And do you feel like you understand who who makes it and who doesn't? Like who who makes it and who doesn't? Like who who makes it and who doesn't? Like talent must have so little to do with it talent must have so little to do with it talent must have so little to do with it ultimately. It's not that it has so ultimately. It's not that it has so ultimately. It's not that it has so little to do with it. little to do with it. little to do with it. I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. I mean, there's a lot that goes into it. I mean, I mean, I mean, right place, right time. Uh, hey, what right place, right time. Uh, hey, what right place, right time. Uh, hey, what kind of friend are you? Which goes a kind of friend are you? Which goes a kind of friend are you? Which goes a long long way. Like, I'm even now if I long long way. Like, I'm even now if I long long way. Like, I'm even now if I look over my career, look over my career, look over my career, you know, probably half of my gigs are you know, probably half of my gigs are you know, probably half of my gigs are just somebody going, "Oh, he's cool." just somebody going, "Oh, he's cool." just somebody going, "Oh, he's cool." You know what I mean? like you got to You know what I mean? like you got to You know what I mean? like you got to you got to you got to be a good friend. you got to you got to be a good friend. you got to you got to be a good friend. You have to be considerate. You have to You have to be considerate. You have to You have to be considerate. You have to ask people how they're doing. There's ask people how they're doing. There's ask people how they're doing. There's all these other parts. I mean, all these other parts. I mean, all these other parts. I mean, I know myself and a lot of artists were I know myself and a lot of artists were I know myself and a lot of artists were just so [ __ ] self-centered. just so [ __ ] self-centered. just so [ __ ] self-centered. So, I don't know. To answer your So, I don't know. To answer your So, I don't know. To answer your question, yes, there's a lot of talent question, yes, there's a lot of talent question, yes, there's a lot of talent out there and a lot of it's just right out there and a lot of it's just right out there and a lot of it's just right time, right place.

time, right place. time, right place. And yeah, some of this has no rhyme or And yeah, some of this has no rhyme or And yeah, some of this has no rhyme or reason. I mean, sometimes you're like on reason. I mean, sometimes you're like on reason. I mean, sometimes you're like on a subway and you see a guy playing the a subway and you see a guy playing the a subway and you see a guy playing the [ __ ] violin like like, you know what [ __ ] violin like like, you know what [ __ ] violin like like, you know what I mean? Like they should be at the Met I mean? Like they should be at the Met I mean? Like they should be at the Met or something. You're like, "What the or something. You're like, "What the or something. You're like, "What the fuck?" Uh, who's someone who you worked fuck?" Uh, who's someone who you worked fuck?" Uh, who's someone who you worked with or whose work you know that you with or whose work you know that you with or whose work you know that you thought was incredibly talented, but thought was incredibly talented, but thought was incredibly talented, but whether because like maybe Misty, they whether because like maybe Misty, they whether because like maybe Misty, they were self-destructive or they just never were self-destructive or they just never were self-destructive or they just never got a break. got a break. got a break. >> Well, I can't say that. I wish I could >> Well, I can't say that. I wish I could >> Well, I can't say that. I wish I could say I'd say that off camera. There's a say I'd say that off camera. There's a say I'd say that off camera. There's a bunch of people. the self-destructive bunch of people. the self-destructive bunch of people. the self-destructive thing. That self-destructive thing is a thing. That self-destructive thing is a thing. That self-destructive thing is a really sad thing. really sad thing. really sad thing. >> Or just someone who's whose >> Or just someone who's whose >> Or just someone who's whose ultimate level of success did not ultimate level of success did not ultimate level of success did not >> The thing about self-destructive too, >> The thing about self-destructive too, >> The thing about self-destructive too, >> it's like >> it's like >> it's like >> people don't realize >> people don't realize >> people don't realize people go, "Okay, the year is 365 days, people go, "Okay, the year is 365 days, people go, "Okay, the year is 365 days, right? right? right? >> And if I want to party, who cares? If I >> And if I want to party, who cares? If I >> And if I want to party, who cares? If I what I'm trying to say is a what I'm trying to say is a what I'm trying to say is a self-destructive person self-destructive person self-destructive person is basically a person that makes six bad is basically a person that makes six bad is basically a person that makes six bad decisions a year.

decisions a year. decisions a year. You know what I mean? It seems like a You know what I mean? It seems like a You know what I mean? It seems like a little, you know what I mean? That's 359 little, you know what I mean? That's 359 little, you know what I mean? That's 359 days. days. days. >> They were doing fine >> They were doing fine >> They were doing fine >> of of being fine. But those six bad >> of of being fine. But those six bad >> of of being fine. But those six bad decisions a year will [ __ ] up your whole decisions a year will [ __ ] up your whole decisions a year will [ __ ] up your whole life. life. life. So So So you know you know you know >> how many bad decisions a year? >> how many bad decisions a year? >> how many bad decisions a year? >> I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you >> I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you >> I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you know, show business, it's like the know, show business, it's like the know, show business, it's like the Olympics. Olympics. Olympics. And in the Olympics, the difference And in the Olympics, the difference And in the Olympics, the difference between first and last can be less than between first and last can be less than between first and last can be less than a second sometimes, you know, less than a second sometimes, you know, less than a second sometimes, you know, less than a second. So a second. So a second. So >> I want to ask uh something about the >> I want to ask uh something about the >> I want to ask uh something about the movie. Another thematic question about movie. Another thematic question about movie. Another thematic question about >> Mr. Green in theaters 824. [laughter] >> Mr. Green in theaters 824. [laughter] >> Mr. Green in theaters 824. [laughter] >> Do you think that there were ideas that you had about women or or ideas that you had about women or or men and women that you had to examine or men and women that you had to examine or men and women that you had to examine or think through in order to credibly think through in order to credibly think through in order to credibly create the character of of Misty Green?

create the character of of Misty Green? create the character of of Misty Green? Because I and I ask because you know I Because I and I ask because you know I Because I and I ask because you know I in a lot of your comedy you you make in a lot of your comedy you you make in a lot of your comedy you you make distinctions between men and women and distinctions between men and women and distinctions between men and women and you know and you're and but the you know and you're and but the you know and you're and but the distinctions distinctions distinctions >> I think >> I think >> I think >> in my reading they're they're they're >> in my reading they're they're they're >> in my reading they're they're they're coming from like the male point of view coming from like the male point of view coming from like the male point of view and Misty Green is so much about and Misty Green is so much about and Misty Green is so much about >> oh it's one woman's story. Was it hard >> oh it's one woman's story. Was it hard >> oh it's one woman's story. Was it hard for you or did it take any like for you or did it take any like for you or did it take any like excavation to excavation to excavation to >> to be able to do what you wanted to do >> to be able to do what you wanted to do >> to be able to do what you wanted to do with the character? Um, I mean, well, I mean, well, those uh stark, you know, saying there's those uh stark, you know, saying there's those uh stark, you know, saying there's stark differences between men and women stark differences between men and women stark differences between men and women is a perfect device for comedy. It is a perfect device for comedy. It is a perfect device for comedy. It doesn't work in a drama. Uh, I'll say doesn't work in a drama. Uh, I'll say doesn't work in a drama. Uh, I'll say this, this, this, uh, part of, you know, all this therapy and part of, you know, all this therapy and all this stuff, it's all this stuff, it's all this stuff, it's developing an empathy, developing an empathy, developing an empathy, uh, and really being able to get inside uh, and really being able to get inside uh, and really being able to get inside of another character.

of another character. of another character. So, you know, last four or five years, So, you know, last four or five years, So, you know, last four or five years, I'm like I'm a way more empathetic I'm like I'm a way more empathetic I'm like I'm a way more empathetic person. Um, person. Um, person. Um, Misty, it also helps that my like my Misty, it also helps that my like my Misty, it also helps that my like my daughters are like grown-ups kind of. daughters are like grown-ups kind of. daughters are like grown-ups kind of. So, I've experienced I really watch So, I've experienced I really watch So, I've experienced I really watch women, women, women, you know, around my house. Their friends you know, around my house. Their friends you know, around my house. Their friends uh and my daughters [snorts] just, you uh and my daughters [snorts] just, you uh and my daughters [snorts] just, you know, they don't they don't forgive my know, they don't they don't forgive my know, they don't they don't forgive my sins, but they give me an education that sins, but they give me an education that sins, but they give me an education that I wouldn't normally have. Um, I want to I wouldn't normally have. Um, I want to I wouldn't normally have. Um, I want to go back to uh directing. You know, you go back to uh directing. You know, you go back to uh directing. You know, you said let's go back to directing. said let's go back to directing. said let's go back to directing. >> You said you said, you know, you're into >> You said you said, you know, you're into >> You said you said, you know, you're into directing now and like to do more of it. directing now and like to do more of it. directing now and like to do more of it. It was what, 12 years between movies you It was what, 12 years between movies you It was what, 12 years between movies you directed, between uh Take Five and and directed, between uh Take Five and and directed, between uh Take Five and and Mr. Green. Mr. Green. Mr. Green. >> Top five. >> Top five. >> Top five. >> Top five. I'm sorry. >> Top five. I'm sorry. >> Top five. I'm sorry. >> Top five. Film some of it here. Um, and >> Top five. Film some of it here. Um, and >> Top five. Film some of it here. Um, and Misty Green. Misty Green. Misty Green. >> What took so long? >> What took so long? >> What took so long? >> What took so long? Uh, life. Uh, co. Uh, >> What took so long? Uh, life. Uh, co. Uh, >> What took so long? Uh, life. Uh, co. Uh, I got divorced.

I got divorced. I got divorced. uh uh uh which means which meant I had to make which means which meant I had to make which means which meant I had to make like real money. Um like real money. Um like real money. Um maybe I had some other scripts that just maybe I had some other scripts that just maybe I had some other scripts that just didn't you know uh the market didn't didn't you know uh the market didn't didn't you know uh the market didn't respond to respond to respond to uh a lot you know just a lot of stuff I uh a lot you know just a lot of stuff I uh a lot you know just a lot of stuff I did other movies and it's not like I was did other movies and it's not like I was did other movies and it's not like I was sitting around for that time but sitting around for that time but sitting around for that time but uh you know co co was like uh you know co co was like uh you know co co was like I don't know you got to it's like a time I don't know you got to it's like a time I don't know you got to it's like a time to like okay what am I doing with my to like okay what am I doing with my to like okay what am I doing with my life what you know and other [ __ ] I life what you know and other [ __ ] I life what you know and other [ __ ] I don't feel like talking about. I had a don't feel like talking about. I had a don't feel like talking about. I had a lot of had a lot of stuff going on lot of had a lot of stuff going on lot of had a lot of stuff going on >> um >> um >> um >> the last 12 years. >> the last 12 years. >> the last 12 years. >> Did you did you come up with answers to >> Did you did you come up with answers to >> Did you did you come up with answers to the what should I be doing with my life the what should I be doing with my life the what should I be doing with my life questions that co questions that co questions that co >> uh I should be directing small movies >> uh I should be directing small movies >> uh I should be directing small movies uh character-driven pieces. uh character-driven pieces. uh character-driven pieces. It's kind of I I can do that. Um It's kind of I I can do that. Um It's kind of I I can do that. Um maybe I'm not in the movie as much as I maybe I'm not in the movie as much as I maybe I'm not in the movie as much as I used to used to be. Uh, so I've been used to used to be. Uh, so I've been used to used to be. Uh, so I've been writing a lot more.

writing a lot more. writing a lot more. She working on a book, working on a book She working on a book, working on a book She working on a book, working on a book of essays. We'll see where that goes. of essays. We'll see where that goes. of essays. We'll see where that goes. >> Um, but are are any of those things that >> Um, but are are any of those things that >> Um, but are are any of those things that you don't want to talk about? Could we you don't want to talk about? Could we you don't want to talk about? Could we talk about them? talk about them? talk about them? >> Well, I mean, what do you want to talk >> Well, I mean, what do you want to talk >> Well, I mean, what do you want to talk about? What do [laughter] you want to about? What do [laughter] you want to about? What do [laughter] you want to talk about? I mean, I'm I'm a big boy. I talk about? I mean, I'm I'm a big boy. I talk about? I mean, I'm I'm a big boy. I can answer stuff cooly or not answer can answer stuff cooly or not answer can answer stuff cooly or not answer them, whatever. them, whatever. them, whatever. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, what do you want to know, man? Is there what do you want to know, man? Is there what do you want to know, man? Is there more to say about the slap than what you more to say about the slap than what you more to say about the slap than what you said in the last special? said in the last special? said in the last special? >> I'm good, man. That was so long ago. Not >> I'm good, man. That was so long ago. Not >> I'm good, man. That was so long ago. Not that long ago. that long ago. that long ago. >> I wish everyone well. >> I wish everyone well. >> I wish everyone well. >> I [snorts] wish everyone well. I'm I've >> I [snorts] wish everyone well. I'm I've >> I [snorts] wish everyone well. I'm I've moved on with my life. moved on with my life. moved on with my life. >> Do you forgive what happened? >> Do you forgive what happened? >> Do you forgive what happened? >> I mean, I'm I'm I'm not going to like >> I mean, I'm I'm I'm not going to like >> I mean, I'm I'm I'm not going to like get into clickbait things. Like, I'm not get into clickbait things. Like, I'm not get into clickbait things. Like, I'm not I don't think I'm in beef. I don't You I don't think I'm in beef. I don't You I don't think I'm in beef. I don't You know what I mean? There's no, you know, know what I mean? There's no, you know, know what I mean? There's no, you know, I'm done, dude. I'm done. I'm done, dude. I'm done. I'm done, dude. I'm done. >> Yeah. Um, but I know I keep doing this, >> Yeah. Um, but I know I keep doing this, >> Yeah. Um, but I know I keep doing this, but let's keep go let's go back to the but let's keep go let's go back to the but let's keep go let's go back to the movie again because there's thematic movie again because there's thematic movie again because there's thematic things in the movie that I think are things in the movie that I think are things in the movie that I think are interesting to to dig into. But it was interesting to to dig into. But it was interesting to to dig into. But it was uh I was slightly surprised to hear you uh I was slightly surprised to hear you uh I was slightly surprised to hear you say that, you know, you're not you don't say that, you know, you're not you don't say that, you know, you're not you don't really have anything that bad to say really have anything that bad to say really have anything that bad to say about Hollywood given given the content about Hollywood given given the content about Hollywood given given the content of the film, which to me was really of the film, which to me was really of the film, which to me was really about like on one level just how hard about like on one level just how hard about like on one level just how hard and hurtful to an artist's soul and hurtful to an artist's soul and hurtful to an artist's soul Hollywood can be. But what for you were Hollywood can be. But what for you were Hollywood can be. But what for you were the main ideas and themes that you were the main ideas and themes that you were the main ideas and themes that you were interested in exploring interested in exploring interested in exploring in Misty Green?

in Misty Green? in Misty Green? >> I mean, I'm really into expiration >> I mean, I'm really into expiration >> I mean, I'm really into expiration dates. I have a lot of friends were in dates. I have a lot of friends were in dates. I have a lot of friends were in their 50s or whatever and there's this their 50s or whatever and there's this their 50s or whatever and there's this thing everybody tells you you can do art thing everybody tells you you can do art thing everybody tells you you can do art forever. You know what I mean? And forever. You know what I mean? And forever. You know what I mean? And that's just not true. that's just not true. that's just not true. And And And a lot of show business has like you got a lot of show business has like you got a lot of show business has like you got to reach certain plateaus by a certain to reach certain plateaus by a certain to reach certain plateaus by a certain time or else you're going to be in time or else you're going to be in time or else you're going to be in trouble. So trouble. So trouble. So yeah, Misty is, you know, turning 40 and yeah, Misty is, you know, turning 40 and yeah, Misty is, you know, turning 40 and it's it's a kind there's a little bit of it's it's a kind there's a little bit of it's it's a kind there's a little bit of an expiration date happening here. But an expiration date happening here. But an expiration date happening here. But yeah, I wanted to do a movie about yeah, I wanted to do a movie about yeah, I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. I wanted to do a movie about Hollywood. I wanted to do a movie about the expiration dates we all have. I the expiration dates we all have. I the expiration dates we all have. I wanted to do a movie about LA and it is wanted to do a movie about LA and it is wanted to do a movie about LA and it is like this tale of two cities. It is like this tale of two cities. It is like this tale of two cities. It is sunshine and palm trees, but we're sunshine and palm trees, but we're sunshine and palm trees, but we're constantly walking over homeless people.

constantly walking over homeless people. constantly walking over homeless people. You know what I mean? Like the most You know what I mean? Like the most You know what I mean? Like the most liberal people in the world. this place liberal people in the world. this place liberal people in the world. this place that [snorts] that [snorts] that [snorts] you know the fact that Rodeo Drive and you know the fact that Rodeo Drive and you know the fact that Rodeo Drive and Skid Row are in the same city Skid Row are in the same city Skid Row are in the same city probably 8 10 miles apart. probably 8 10 miles apart. probably 8 10 miles apart. So I and you know in in a lot of ways So I and you know in in a lot of ways So I and you know in in a lot of ways America's like that. Uh America's like that. Uh America's like that. Uh some you know very rich very poor. It's some you know very rich very poor. It's some you know very rich very poor. It's like we're we live in a world where like we're we live in a world where like we're we live in a world where either you order [ __ ] or you deliver either you order [ __ ] or you deliver either you order [ __ ] or you deliver [ __ ] and you really don't want to [ __ ] and you really don't want to [ __ ] and you really don't want to deliver [ __ ] You know deliver [ __ ] You know deliver [ __ ] You know >> what should we what should our response >> what should we what should our response >> what should we what should our response to that disparity be like when you when to that disparity be like when you when to that disparity be like when you when you experience the inequality disparity you experience the inequality disparity you experience the inequality disparity disparity that you're describing like disparity that you're describing like disparity that you're describing like what do you think you should act what do you think you should act what do you think you should act differently or do something about it? differently or do something about it? differently or do something about it? So, the the title the running title of So, the the title the running title of So, the the title the running title of the book I'm writing right now, it's the book I'm writing right now, it's the book I'm writing right now, it's called When the Homeless Know Your Name. called When the Homeless Know Your Name. called When the Homeless Know Your Name. >> Because when the homeless know your >> Because when the homeless know your >> Because when the homeless know your name, it's a whole another like you feel name, it's a whole another like you feel name, it's a whole another like you feel that [ __ ] dude.

that [ __ ] dude. that [ __ ] dude. >> You mean because you're famous. >> You mean because you're famous. >> You mean because you're famous. >> Cuz you're famous. But But they know >> Cuz you're famous. But But they know >> Cuz you're famous. But But they know your [ __ ] name, dude. So when your [ __ ] name, dude. So when your [ __ ] name, dude. So when somebody asks you for money on the somebody asks you for money on the somebody asks you for money on the street, they just ask you for money. street, they just ask you for money. street, they just ask you for money. When they ask me, I said, "Yo, Chris." When they ask me, I said, "Yo, Chris." When they ask me, I said, "Yo, Chris." So that [ __ ] you know, I don't know So that [ __ ] you know, I don't know So that [ __ ] you know, I don't know what I should do. You know, first of what I should do. You know, first of what I should do. You know, first of all, who the hell carries cash anymore all, who the hell carries cash anymore all, who the hell carries cash anymore for the most part, right? Uh, you know, for the most part, right? Uh, you know, for the most part, right? Uh, you know, you give what you can. You you give to you give what you can. You you give to you give what you can. You you give to this charity, that charity, what you this charity, that charity, what you this charity, that charity, what you can. can. can. >> I want to dig into that feeling a little >> I want to dig into that feeling a little >> I want to dig into that feeling a little bit more. The when the homeless know bit more. The when the homeless know bit more. The when the homeless know your name. Hey, Chris. What do What do your name. Hey, Chris. What do What do your name. Hey, Chris. What do What do you do with that feeling? What does it you do with that feeling? What does it you do with that feeling? What does it make you feel? make you feel? make you feel? >> I mean, put it this way. I'm usually up >> I mean, put it this way. I'm usually up >> I mean, put it this way. I'm usually up now. now. now. I get up around 7. I get up around 7. I get up around 7. I'm out of my I'm literally getting I'm out of my I'm literally getting I'm out of my I'm literally getting coffee by about 7:15. coffee by about 7:15. coffee by about 7:15. Um, Um, Um, I go to my supermarket, I go to my supermarket, I go to my supermarket, get some fruit, right? get some fruit, right? get some fruit, right? And inevitably there's always like a And inevitably there's always like a And inevitably there's always like a bunch of guys packing like setting up bunch of guys packing like setting up bunch of guys packing like setting up for the day. And I don't know, you ever for the day. And I don't know, you ever for the day. And I don't know, you ever see like 12 Years a Slave or any slave see like 12 Years a Slave or any slave see like 12 Years a Slave or any slave movie with a free slave and the slaves movie with a free slave and the slaves movie with a free slave and the slaves look at look at look at the, you know, at Chittel and he's like the, you know, at Chittel and he's like the, you know, at Chittel and he's like in he's dressed all cool in he's dressed all cool in he's dressed all cool and he's got his hat and they're just and he's got his hat and they're just and he's got his hat and they're just looking at him like, "How the [ __ ] did looking at him like, "How the [ __ ] did looking at him like, "How the [ __ ] did this happen? We're the same."

this happen? We're the same." this happen? We're the same." That's me at the supermarket in the That's me at the supermarket in the That's me at the supermarket in the morning. They're looking at me. They're morning. They're looking at me. They're morning. They're looking at me. They're not even looking at me as a famous not even looking at me as a famous not even looking at me as a famous person. It's like, who's this brother person. It's like, who's this brother person. It's like, who's this brother buying mango at [ __ ] buying mango at [ __ ] buying mango at [ __ ] 7:25 7:25 7:25 in the morning? in the morning? in the morning? Cuz you know, if you're in Soho, if Cuz you know, if you're in Soho, if Cuz you know, if you're in Soho, if you're in, you know, just there's no you're in, you know, just there's no you're in, you know, just there's no black dudes living down there. Um, I black dudes living down there. Um, I black dudes living down there. Um, I don't even know what I'm doing. Am I don't even know what I'm doing. Am I don't even know what I'm doing. Am I answering your question? answering your question? answering your question? >> Yeah. You you you see behind the veil. >> Yeah. You you you see behind the veil. >> Yeah. You you you see behind the veil. >> Yeah. It's like, yeah. And they're >> Yeah. It's like, yeah. And they're >> Yeah. It's like, yeah. And they're looking at me. I'm looking at them cuz I looking at me. I'm looking at them cuz I looking at me. I'm looking at them cuz I know I could be that. I know if I don't know I could be that. I know if I don't know I could be that. I know if I don't walk in a comedy club in 84 or 83, walk in a comedy club in 84 or 83, walk in a comedy club in 84 or 83, I probably have a normal job. I'm not, I probably have a normal job. I'm not, I probably have a normal job. I'm not, you know, I probably have a normal job. you know, I probably have a normal job. you know, I probably have a normal job. I'm I have a a lovely life, by the way. I'm I have a a lovely life, by the way. I'm I have a a lovely life, by the way. I don't I'm not one of these guys I don't I'm not one of these guys I don't I'm not one of these guys that's like, if I didn't find comedy, that's like, if I didn't find comedy, that's like, if I didn't find comedy, I'd be in jail. No, I'd work for Amazon I'd be in jail. No, I'd work for Amazon I'd be in jail. No, I'd work for Amazon or something and I'd have a wife and or something and I'd have a wife and or something and I'd have a wife and some kids and I'd be okay.

some kids and I'd be okay. some kids and I'd be okay. >> It's interesting that you're writing >> It's interesting that you're writing >> It's interesting that you're writing this book because I remember pro it was this book because I remember pro it was this book because I remember pro it was probably I think it was pre- pandemic, probably I think it was pre- pandemic, probably I think it was pre- pandemic, maybe right before the pandemic, there maybe right before the pandemic, there maybe right before the pandemic, there was an announcement that you were was an announcement that you were was an announcement that you were working on a book. working on a book. working on a book. >> I was working on a book >> I was working on a book >> I was working on a book >> about uh interracial relationships and >> about uh interracial relationships and >> about uh interracial relationships and you you even I think on Facebook or you you even I think on Facebook or you you even I think on Facebook or maybe had a website where you were maybe had a website where you were maybe had a website where you were asking people to send stories in. asking people to send stories in. asking people to send stories in. >> Yes. What happened there? You know what? >> Yes. What happened there? You know what? >> Yes. What happened there? You know what? That book never showed up. That book never showed up. That book never showed up. >> I'm not and I'm not trying to be like a >> I'm not and I'm not trying to be like a >> I'm not and I'm not trying to be like a gangster or anything. I didn't like gangster or anything. I didn't like gangster or anything. I didn't like >> there was just just me and the publisher >> there was just just me and the publisher >> there was just just me and the publisher and cuz when you're writing something and cuz when you're writing something and cuz when you're writing something about race, especially in this era of about race, especially in this era of about race, especially in this era of everybody taking everything out of everybody taking everything out of everybody taking everything out of context, I just didn't feel like context, I just didn't feel like context, I just didn't feel like everything I was saying to the everything I was saying to the everything I was saying to the publisher, I was getting, publisher, I was getting, publisher, I was getting, you know, they were listening to you know, they were listening to you know, they were listening to everything I said. And I was like, everything I said. And I was like, everything I said. And I was like, I don't I don't I don't trust these I don't I don't I don't trust these I don't I don't I don't trust these people I'm working with. So, I gave the people I'm working with. So, I gave the people I'm working with. So, I gave the money back. money back. money back. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How much was that that you gave back? >> How much was that that you gave back? >> How much was that that you gave back? >> It was It was a significant sum. More >> It was It was a significant sum. More >> It was It was a significant sum. More than I'm making today. than I'm making today. than I'm making today. >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> More than I'm making for this interview. >> More than I'm making for this interview. >> More than I'm making for this interview. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I'll make the check out later. >> I'll make the check out later. >> I'll make the check out later. the the um do do you think that the the um do do you think that the the um do do you think that taking things out of context is taking things out of context is taking things out of context is like an an ongoing problem for or having like an an ongoing problem for or having like an an ongoing problem for or having things taken out of context is an things taken out of context is an things taken out of context is an ongoing problem for artists and and ongoing problem for artists and and ongoing problem for artists and and comedians now because it feels like comedians now because it feels like comedians now because it feels like there's so much discussion about, you there's so much discussion about, you there's so much discussion about, you know, uh whether somebody said something know, uh whether somebody said something know, uh whether somebody said something offensive or who's allowed to make what offensive or who's allowed to make what offensive or who's allowed to make what what joke and and uh I just feel like I what joke and and uh I just feel like I what joke and and uh I just feel like I never know how how real that is. never know how how real that is. never know how how real that is. >> It's I mean, I hate to say it, it's just >> It's I mean, I hate to say it, it's just >> It's I mean, I hate to say it, it's just [ __ ] dude. It's like It's just nerd [ __ ] dude. It's like It's just nerd [ __ ] dude. It's like It's just nerd bullies. It's like, you know how easy it bullies. It's like, you know how easy it bullies. It's like, you know how easy it is to go, hey, what what did you mean by is to go, hey, what what did you mean by is to go, hey, what what did you mean by that? It's so easy to go, "What did you that? It's so easy to go, "What did you that? It's so easy to go, "What did you mean by that?" before you elect to be mean by that?" before you elect to be mean by that?" before you elect to be angry at something. It is so easy to ask angry at something. It is so easy to ask angry at something. It is so easy to ask somebody, "Hey, man, somebody, "Hey, man, somebody, "Hey, man, could you not say that thing? I mean, I could you not say that thing? I mean, I could you not say that thing? I mean, I did. I just felt a certain way when you did. I just felt a certain way when you did. I just felt a certain way when you said that." And then if you're ignored, said that." And then if you're ignored, said that." And then if you're ignored, yes, reply with anger. But it is so easy yes, reply with anger. But it is so easy yes, reply with anger. But it is so easy to pause and just go, "Hey, hey, man.

to pause and just go, "Hey, hey, man. to pause and just go, "Hey, hey, man. What did you mean? What?" It's so easy. What did you mean? What?" It's so easy. What did you mean? What?" It's so easy. So, So, So, I don't know. I don't know who I was I don't know. I don't know who I was I don't know. I don't know who I was having this argument with. And people having this argument with. And people having this argument with. And people like, "Oh, people are so sensitive." I'm like, "Oh, people are so sensitive." I'm like, "Oh, people are so sensitive." I'm like, "No, they're not sensitive. like, "No, they're not sensitive. like, "No, they're not sensitive. They're mean." And they can't stop being They're mean." And they can't stop being They're mean." And they can't stop being mean. They can't Oh, this is my mean. They can't Oh, this is my mean. They can't Oh, this is my opportunity to be mean. opportunity to be mean. opportunity to be mean. >> So, you think it's all about meanness? >> So, you think it's all about meanness? >> So, you think it's all about meanness? >> I'm just saying meanness is is is the >> I'm just saying meanness is is is the >> I'm just saying meanness is is is the new kale. It It is on the platter. new kale. It It is on the platter. new kale. It It is on the platter. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] Okay. It's like, "Oh, do you got any Okay. It's like, "Oh, do you got any Okay. It's like, "Oh, do you got any mean here?" [laughter] mean here?" [laughter] mean here?" [laughter] >> Nothing is going to make me >> Nothing is going to make me >> Nothing is going to make me >> order that mean real quick. Nothing's >> order that mean real quick. Nothing's >> order that mean real quick. Nothing's going to make meanness seem less cool going to make meanness seem less cool going to make meanness seem less cool than comparing it to the new kale. than comparing it to the new kale. than comparing it to the new kale. >> It's the new kale, man. Like, yeah, it's >> It's the new kale, man. Like, yeah, it's >> It's the new kale, man. Like, yeah, it's so easy to go, okay, what? What? I'm so easy to go, okay, what? What? I'm so easy to go, okay, what? What? I'm sorry. What what what did you say? It's sorry. What what what did you say? It's sorry. What what what did you say? It's so easy. Like, the [ __ ] I'm no genius. so easy. Like, the [ __ ] I'm no genius. so easy. Like, the [ __ ] I'm no genius. I like like what did what did that take? I like like what did what did that take? I like like what did what did that take? >> When is offense justified? >> When is offense justified? >> When is offense justified? >> I mean, people are entitled to their >> I mean, people are entitled to their >> I mean, people are entitled to their feelings, don't get me wrong. I mean, feelings, don't get me wrong. I mean, feelings, don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm entitled to our feelings. We're all I'm entitled to our feelings. We're all I'm entitled to our feelings. We're all entitled to be offended, don't get me entitled to be offended, don't get me entitled to be offended, don't get me wrong. Uh so don't, you know, take me wrong. Uh so don't, you know, take me wrong. Uh so don't, you know, take me out of context. Uh context does matter out of context. Uh context does matter out of context. Uh context does matter though. But people, a lot of people are though. But people, a lot of people are though. But people, a lot of people are ignoring context cuz it prevents them ignoring context cuz it prevents them ignoring context cuz it prevents them from being mean.

from being mean. from being mean. >> This morning when you came in, >> This morning when you came in, >> This morning when you came in, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> you said, "I don't think I've been here >> you said, "I don't think I've been here >> you said, "I don't think I've been here since I filmed uh uh in Top Five. since I filmed uh uh in Top Five. since I filmed uh uh in Top Five. There's a scene in the in the time There's a scene in the in the time There's a scene in the in the time center and you said with the uh with the center and you said with the uh with the center and you said with the uh with the canceled all stars uh uh Scott Ruden and canceled all stars uh uh Scott Ruden and canceled all stars uh uh Scott Ruden and >> and Charlie Rose. Yeah. And I listened >> and Charlie Rose. Yeah. And I listened >> and Charlie Rose. Yeah. And I listened to a a podcast interview you did with uh to a a podcast interview you did with uh to a a podcast interview you did with uh David Spade and Dana Carvey I think David Spade and Dana Carvey I think David Spade and Dana Carvey I think earlier this year and you used the earlier this year and you used the earlier this year and you used the phrase the canceled all stars in that phrase the canceled all stars in that phrase the canceled all stars in that Carvey Spade interview to talk about I Carvey Spade interview to talk about I Carvey Spade interview to talk about I think Louis CK and maybe Kanye all all think Louis CK and maybe Kanye all all think Louis CK and maybe Kanye all all people that you're [laughter] but people that you're [laughter] but people that you're [laughter] but >> okay >> okay >> okay >> but how do you like how do you think >> but how do you like how do you think >> but how do you like how do you think about the about the about the question of question of question of like this actually relates to the movie like this actually relates to the movie like this actually relates to the movie in a way too but the questions of in a way too but the questions of in a way too but the questions of forgiveness and and who gets forgiveness and and who gets forgiveness and and who gets forgiven and and why? forgiven and and why? forgiven and and why? >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, who who who >> public figures? I'm talking about >> public figures? I'm talking about >> public figures? I'm talking about >> public figures. Um, hey man, I'm black.

>> public figures. Um, hey man, I'm black. >> public figures. Um, hey man, I'm black. What does What does that mean? When What does What does that mean? When What does What does that mean? When you're black, [clears throat] white you're black, [clears throat] white you're black, [clears throat] white people believe every accusation is a people believe every accusation is a people believe every accusation is a conviction. conviction. conviction. Uh, I grew up 619 Decada Street between Uh, I grew up 619 Decada Street between Uh, I grew up 619 Decada Street between Howard and Saratoga. If you go on your Howard and Saratoga. If you go on your Howard and Saratoga. If you go on your phone and punch up Roger Logan, phone and punch up Roger Logan, phone and punch up Roger Logan, exonerated, exonerated, exonerated, a guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up a guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up a guy named Roger Logan, who I grew up with, who was very uh he was one of my with, who was very uh he was one of my with, who was very uh he was one of my best friends brothers, went to jail for best friends brothers, went to jail for best friends brothers, went to jail for 19 years for a murder he didn't commit. 19 years for a murder he didn't commit. 19 years for a murder he didn't commit. And here's a weird thing. And here's a weird thing. And here's a weird thing. >> Yeah. His brother used to plead with me >> Yeah. His brother used to plead with me >> Yeah. His brother used to plead with me to pay for a lawyer for Roger and I to pay for a lawyer for Roger and I to pay for a lawyer for Roger and I never did it. I always had like a no never did it. I always had like a no never did it. I always had like a no lawyer thing because a lawyer is like an lawyer thing because a lawyer is like an lawyer thing because a lawyer is like an open-ended thing. Like I'll pay your open-ended thing. Like I'll pay your open-ended thing. Like I'll pay your mortgage. I'll put whatever. I'll mortgage. I'll put whatever. I'll mortgage. I'll put whatever. I'll There's a bunch of [ __ ] I've paid for There's a bunch of [ __ ] I've paid for There's a bunch of [ __ ] I've paid for education, education, education, all sorts of [ __ ] I always stay out of all sorts of [ __ ] I always stay out of all sorts of [ __ ] I always stay out of lawyers because it's so open-ended. And lawyers because it's so open-ended. And lawyers because it's so open-ended. And I'm I'm It still [ __ ] with me. I was I'm I'm It still [ __ ] with me. I was I'm I'm It still [ __ ] with me. I was like, I had the means to help him and I like, I had the means to help him and I like, I had the means to help him and I didn't. And I don't know if we could didn't. And I don't know if we could didn't. And I don't know if we could have got him out or not, but still. Uh, have got him out or not, but still. Uh, have got him out or not, but still. Uh, so all that to say is I'm black. Black so all that to say is I'm black. Black so all that to say is I'm black. Black men get accused of [ __ ] they didn't do men get accused of [ __ ] they didn't do men get accused of [ __ ] they didn't do all the time. Every day in the paper, we all the time. Every day in the paper, we all the time. Every day in the paper, we let black men out of jail. We go, let black men out of jail. We go, let black men out of jail. We go, "Whoops. Oh, that black guy just did 30 "Whoops. Oh, that black guy just did 30 "Whoops. Oh, that black guy just did 30 years. Too bad." So,

years. Too bad." So, years. Too bad." So, I don't know. To answer your question, I don't know. To answer your question, I don't know. To answer your question, when there's a convict, you know, like when there's a convict, you know, like when there's a convict, you know, like all this rumor [ __ ] all this rumor [ __ ] all this rumor [ __ ] you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not, hey, I hopefully I don't get accused of hey, I hopefully I don't get accused of hey, I hopefully I don't get accused of anything, but you know what I mean? anything, but you know what I mean? anything, but you know what I mean? Like, I'm handling it from a real place. Like, I'm handling it from a real place. Like, I'm handling it from a real place. [sighs and gasps] [sighs and gasps] [sighs and gasps] You know, this shit's real when people You know, this shit's real when people You know, this shit's real when people get accused of things. And you better be get accused of things. And you better be get accused of things. And you better be real sure they did it. real sure they did it. real sure they did it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Does that make Am I making sense? Does that make Am I making sense? Does that make Am I making sense? >> You're making sense. You know, I think I >> You're making sense. You know, I think I >> You're making sense. You know, I think I think you're you're describing a kind of think you're you're describing a kind of think you're you're describing a kind of um lived empathy that you that you um lived empathy that you that you um lived empathy that you that you >> And I'll go even further. My >> And I'll go even further. My >> And I'll go even further. My grandfather, grandfather, grandfather, Allan Rock. Allan Rock. Allan Rock. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> He killed a man. >> He killed a man. >> He killed a man. Uh you can look this up. I don't know if Uh you can look this up. I don't know if Uh you can look this up. I don't know if it's, you know, maybe Amsterdam News or it's, you know, maybe Amsterdam News or it's, you know, maybe Amsterdam News or something. Uh, I don't, you know, legend something. Uh, I don't, you know, legend something. Uh, I don't, you know, legend has it he thought the guy was sleeping has it he thought the guy was sleeping has it he thought the guy was sleeping with my grandmother. The guy lived next with my grandmother. The guy lived next with my grandmother. The guy lived next door. He told the guy, door. He told the guy, door. He told the guy, "If you take another step in my yard, "If you take another step in my yard, "If you take another step in my yard, I'm going to shoot you." The guy took I'm going to shoot you." The guy took I'm going to shoot you." The guy took one step and my grandfather blew him one step and my grandfather blew him one step and my grandfather blew him away. Right.

away. Right. away. Right. My grandfather went to jail and my My grandfather went to jail and my My grandfather went to jail and my grandfather was a preacher. grandfather was a preacher. grandfather was a preacher. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And >> And >> And he gets out of jail. I don't know if he he gets out of jail. I don't know if he he gets out of jail. I don't know if he gets out of jail on a Wednesday. By gets out of jail on a Wednesday. By gets out of jail on a Wednesday. By Friday he was picking us up from school Friday he was picking us up from school Friday he was picking us up from school and within a year or two years he was and within a year or two years he was and within a year or two years he was the reverend of that church again. the reverend of that church again. the reverend of that church again. So a if you accuse So a if you accuse So a if you accuse >> Wait, he was the reverend when he shot >> Wait, he was the reverend when he shot >> Wait, he was the reverend when he shot the guy. the guy. the guy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> So my brother shot a guy. My brother >> So my brother shot a guy. My brother >> So my brother shot a guy. My brother Charles, his government name is Charles, Charles, his government name is Charles, Charles, his government name is Charles, but he's a 5enter. His name's Shabbaz. but he's a 5enter. His name's Shabbaz. but he's a 5enter. His name's Shabbaz. So, I say that all to say So, I say that all to say So, I say that all to say my grandfather went to jail. He got out my grandfather went to jail. He got out my grandfather went to jail. He got out of jail. He did his time. So, A, if of jail. He did his time. So, A, if of jail. He did his time. So, A, if you're going to accuse somebody, make you're going to accuse somebody, make you're going to accuse somebody, make sure they did it. And B, when people do sure they did it. And B, when people do sure they did it. And B, when people do things, there's a [ __ ] time limit in things, there's a [ __ ] time limit in things, there's a [ __ ] time limit in the real world. Not in the I'm a spoiled the real world. Not in the I'm a spoiled the real world. Not in the I'm a spoiled [ __ ] and I went to private [ __ ] and I went to private [ __ ] and I went to private school and no, you know, yeah, in your school and no, you know, yeah, in your school and no, you know, yeah, in your world, you just shun people, but in the world, you just shun people, but in the world, you just shun people, but in the real world, we we kind of have to live real world, we we kind of have to live real world, we we kind of have to live with each other.

with each other. with each other. you know. So, you know. So, you know. So, yeah. I mean, yeah. All that to say, yeah. I mean, yeah. All that to say, yeah. I mean, yeah. All that to say, it's it's up to the victims to forgive, it's it's up to the victims to forgive, it's it's up to the victims to forgive, I guess. I guess. I guess. And And And two things can be true. Like, my brother two things can be true. Like, my brother two things can be true. Like, my brother shot a guy, right? I love my brother. Do shot a guy, right? I love my brother. Do shot a guy, right? I love my brother. Do I think the just because I love my I think the just because I love my I think the just because I love my brother, does that mean I think the brother, does that mean I think the brother, does that mean I think the person should have gotten shot? person should have gotten shot? person should have gotten shot? No. No. No. Uh, the last thing I'll say to you, Uh, the last thing I'll say to you, Uh, the last thing I'll say to you, >> uh, when I was a kid, you know, I don't know, two, three times you know, I don't know, two, three times I was in, uh, police lineups, I was in, uh, police lineups, I was in, uh, police lineups, you know, you're, you know, Howard you know, you're, you know, Howard you know, you're, you know, Howard Avenue, stay away from Howard Avenue, Avenue, stay away from Howard Avenue, Avenue, stay away from Howard Avenue, right? Howard and Nicada, right? And right? Howard and Nicada, right? And right? Howard and Nicada, right? And you, you're with your friends, me, you, you're with your friends, me, you, you're with your friends, me, Darren Bos, whatever, right? in Bedstey. Darren Bos, whatever, right? in Bedstey. Darren Bos, whatever, right? in Bedstey. >> In Bedstey and you're minding your >> In Bedstey and you're minding your >> In Bedstey and you're minding your business and you get swooped up business and you get swooped up business and you get swooped up and now you're in a police lineup and now you're in a police lineup and now you're in a police lineup and you've seen enough [ __ ] cop and you've seen enough [ __ ] cop and you've seen enough [ __ ] cop movies to know that behind that window movies to know that behind that window movies to know that behind that window is probably is probably is probably a person, probably a woman, could be a a person, probably a woman, could be a a person, probably a woman, could be a man, but probably a woman, right? And if man, but probably a woman, right? And if man, but probably a woman, right? And if they point at you, they point at you, they point at you, your whole life's over. Now, here's your whole life's over. Now, here's your whole life's over. Now, here's here's what's what's [ __ ] up. Like, and you guys you what's [ __ ] up. Like, and you guys you guys are like the media. You're supposed guys are like the media. You're supposed guys are like the media. You're supposed to be in charge of the nuance of it all.

to be in charge of the nuance of it all. to be in charge of the nuance of it all. Okay. I'm Chris. Chris has been on the Okay. I'm Chris. Chris has been on the Okay. I'm Chris. Chris has been on the stoop for [ __ ] four hours. Chris stoop for [ __ ] four hours. Chris stoop for [ __ ] four hours. Chris didn't rob this woman, right? didn't rob this woman, right? didn't rob this woman, right? If she points at me, she's wrong. she's wrong. She's But she's not lying. What do you She's But she's not lying. What do you She's But she's not lying. What do you mean she's not lying? You didn't do mean she's not lying? You didn't do mean she's not lying? You didn't do anything. She's traumatized. anything. She's traumatized. anything. She's traumatized. And when you're traumatized, you try to And when you're traumatized, you try to And when you're traumatized, you try to wrap [ __ ] up, wrap [ __ ] up, wrap [ __ ] up, you know, and for whatever reason, I you know, and for whatever reason, I you know, and for whatever reason, I grow, you know, my dad drove a newspaper grow, you know, my dad drove a newspaper grow, you know, my dad drove a newspaper truck and I've been reading the paper truck and I've been reading the paper truck and I've been reading the paper since I was a kid. The news has taken since I was a kid. The news has taken since I was a kid. The news has taken all nuance out of it. Everything's black all nuance out of it. Everything's black all nuance out of it. Everything's black and white. Everything's black and white, and white. Everything's black and white, and white. Everything's black and white, man. man. man. >> What you were talking about just now >> What you were talking about just now >> What you were talking about just now with your your family story that it I it with your your family story that it I it with your your family story that it I it seemed like that was really coming from seemed like that was really coming from seemed like that was really coming from a lot of personal empathy. But h how did a lot of personal empathy. But h how did a lot of personal empathy. But h how did you It's two questions. One, how does you It's two questions. One, how does you It's two questions. One, how does one consciously learn to be more one consciously learn to be more one consciously learn to be more empathetic? And then is being more empathetic? And then is being more empathetic? And then is being more empathetic good for a comedian?

empathetic good for a comedian? empathetic good for a comedian? >> Um I I guess it has to be. It better be. >> Um I I guess it has to be. It better be. >> Um I I guess it has to be. It better be. Um or I'm in trouble. Um or I'm in trouble. Um or I'm in trouble. >> Yeah. Um, I don't know if I've learned >> Yeah. Um, I don't know if I've learned >> Yeah. Um, I don't know if I've learned to be empathetic. I I got to be empathetic. I I got to be empathetic. I I got a friend of mine told me I had Asberers a friend of mine told me I had Asberers a friend of mine told me I had Asberers a few years back and I got it checked a few years back and I got it checked a few years back and I got it checked out. It wasn't Asperers, but was a thing out. It wasn't Asperers, but was a thing out. It wasn't Asperers, but was a thing called NVLD, called NVLD, called NVLD, >> non-verbal learning disorder. >> non-verbal learning disorder. >> non-verbal learning disorder. >> So, >> So, >> So, you know, it it it requires its own you know, it it it requires its own you know, it it it requires its own level of therapy. It's uh level of therapy. It's uh level of therapy. It's uh >> Yeah. How does what are the effects of >> Yeah. How does what are the effects of >> Yeah. How does what are the effects of that? The effects are I'm really bad that? The effects are I'm really bad that? The effects are I'm really bad with reading nonverbal signals. Most with reading nonverbal signals. Most with reading nonverbal signals. Most communication is non-verbal. Um I communication is non-verbal. Um I communication is non-verbal. Um I catastrophize. catastrophize. catastrophize. I I I I have black and white thinking. Both I have black and white thinking. Both I have black and white thinking. Both things that are great for being a things that are great for being a things that are great for being a comedian. comedian. comedian. >> I was going to say, yeah, >> I was going to say, yeah, >> I was going to say, yeah, >> but bad in person in personal life and >> but bad in person in personal life and >> but bad in person in personal life and real relationships. So, uh, so I've been real relationships. So, uh, so I've been real relationships. So, uh, so I've been learning learning learning like I have to see a woman once a week like I have to see a woman once a week like I have to see a woman once a week and go over my week and and we'll see and go over my week and and we'll see and go over my week and and we'll see what Well, you know what? Misty Green what Well, you know what? Misty Green what Well, you know what? Misty Green would be the first piece of art that would be the first piece of art that would be the first piece of art that I've done since my diagnosis. My first I've done since my diagnosis. My first I've done since my diagnosis. My first real piece of art.

real piece of art. real piece of art. >> But wait, you said earlier part of what >> But wait, you said earlier part of what >> But wait, you said earlier part of what you're talking about in therapy is you're talking about in therapy is you're talking about in therapy is feeling like you're you're enough. Um, feeling like you're you're enough. Um, feeling like you're you're enough. Um, like when do you do you have like like when do you do you have like like when do you do you have like self-esteem questions or self-esteem questions or self-esteem questions or >> I mean all >> I mean all >> I mean all artists have self-esteem questions, you artists have self-esteem questions, you artists have self-esteem questions, you know, all especially the good ones. I know, all especially the good ones. I know, all especially the good ones. I hope maybe I'm good. Um, knock on steel. hope maybe I'm good. Um, knock on steel. hope maybe I'm good. Um, knock on steel. You know, most artists are what is it? You know, most artists are what is it? You know, most artists are what is it? It's a egoomaniac It's a egoomaniac It's a egoomaniac with an inferiority complex. with an inferiority complex. with an inferiority complex. Yes. And I would absolutely fall into Yes. And I would absolutely fall into Yes. And I would absolutely fall into that. I am great. I hope they notice. that. I am great. I hope they notice. that. I am great. I hope they notice. You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, I You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, I You know what I mean? Like, so yeah, I could I can feel that way. could I can feel that way. could I can feel that way. >> But so, you know, that I think also >> But so, you know, that I think also >> But so, you know, that I think also >> Eddie Murphy makes me feel like >> Eddie Murphy makes me feel like >> Eddie Murphy makes me feel like >> Well, of course, >> Well, of course, >> Well, of course, >> still in the presence of Eddie Murphy, I >> still in the presence of Eddie Murphy, I >> still in the presence of Eddie Murphy, I can get a little like insecure. can get a little like insecure. can get a little like insecure. >> Yeah. I, you know, I he was on this show >> Yeah. I, you know, I he was on this show >> Yeah. I, you know, I he was on this show about maybe two years ago and just even about maybe two years ago and just even about maybe two years ago and just even in his stillest moments, just the the in his stillest moments, just the the in his stillest moments, just the the charisma and the like comedic ingenuity charisma and the like comedic ingenuity charisma and the like comedic ingenuity that just flows from that guy, it's it's that just flows from that guy, it's it's that just flows from that guy, it's it's like, yeah, there's a reason he's Eddie like, yeah, there's a reason he's Eddie like, yeah, there's a reason he's Eddie Murphy.

Murphy. Murphy. >> Yeah. Also, you know, not to name drop, >> Yeah. Also, you know, not to name drop, >> Yeah. Also, you know, not to name drop, like one of my biggest regrets in life like one of my biggest regrets in life like one of my biggest regrets in life is uh I could never relax around Prince is uh I could never relax around Prince is uh I could never relax around Prince and he kind of wanted to be friends, you and he kind of wanted to be friends, you and he kind of wanted to be friends, you know what I mean? Like like calling me know what I mean? Like like calling me know what I mean? Like like calling me and whatever and hanging out. I couldn't and whatever and hanging out. I couldn't and whatever and hanging out. I couldn't not be like, "Oh [ __ ] Prince is not be like, "Oh [ __ ] Prince is not be like, "Oh [ __ ] Prince is drinking iced tea." You know? [laughter] drinking iced tea." You know? [laughter] drinking iced tea." You know? [laughter] >> Was he normal with you? Did you feel >> Was he normal with you? Did you feel >> Was he normal with you? Did you feel like you ever got to a place where he's like you ever got to a place where he's like you ever got to a place where he's just being a guy? just being a guy? just being a guy? >> I think it was normal. I think it was >> I think it was normal. I think it was >> I think it was normal. I think it was Yeah, I think it was it was really Yeah, I think it was it was really Yeah, I think it was it was really normal. I mean, he's a normal rock star. normal. I mean, he's a normal rock star. normal. I mean, he's a normal rock star. You know what I mean? Like that that You know what I mean? Like that that You know what I mean? Like that that >> those degrees of normal are so different >> those degrees of normal are so different >> those degrees of normal are so different than your, you know what I mean? than your, you know what I mean? than your, you know what I mean? There's a um there's a great Prince There's a um there's a great Prince There's a um there's a great Prince story in uh it's in Bono's I think it's story in uh it's in Bono's I think it's story in uh it's in Bono's I think it's in Bono's memoir where he says he's in in Bono's memoir where he says he's in in Bono's memoir where he says he's in some club and like Prince comes in and some club and like Prince comes in and some club and like Prince comes in and you know makes his his exit by like you know makes his his exit by like you know makes his his exit by like walking across the tables out of the walking across the tables out of the walking across the tables out of the club but out of the corner of Bono's eye club but out of the corner of Bono's eye club but out of the corner of Bono's eye he could see that some of Prince's he could see that some of Prince's he could see that some of Prince's handlers were like holding the bottom of handlers were like holding the bottom of handlers were like holding the bottom of the tables to make sure that he wasn't the tables to make sure that he wasn't the tables to make sure that he wasn't going to fall to maintain the illusion.

going to fall to maintain the illusion. going to fall to maintain the illusion. >> Maintain the illusion. I remember, I >> Maintain the illusion. I remember, I >> Maintain the illusion. I remember, I might have told this story before. I'm might have told this story before. I'm might have told this story before. I'm at Prince's house. I'm in Minneapolis. I at Prince's house. I'm in Minneapolis. I at Prince's house. I'm in Minneapolis. I just done some shows. He had a party for just done some shows. He had a party for just done some shows. He had a party for me after at Paisley Park and it's like me after at Paisley Park and it's like me after at Paisley Park and it's like whatever. He's playing and he's I'm whatever. He's playing and he's I'm whatever. He's playing and he's I'm literally in the vault. Okay, the vault literally in the vault. Okay, the vault literally in the vault. Okay, the vault is like a big The vault was as big as is like a big The vault was as big as is like a big The vault was as big as this room, right? And he's playing me this room, right? And he's playing me this room, right? And he's playing me new music and there's lots of people new music and there's lots of people new music and there's lots of people there. Lots of people, men and women, there. Lots of people, men and women, there. Lots of people, men and women, whatever, right? and his wife called. I whatever, right? and his wife called. I whatever, right? and his wife called. I think he's married to Mai at the time. think he's married to Mai at the time. think he's married to Mai at the time. And he was like, "Everybody, everybody And he was like, "Everybody, everybody And he was like, "Everybody, everybody be quiet. Be quiet. I gota I gota I got be quiet. Be quiet. I gota I gota I got be quiet. Be quiet. I gota I gota I got to make that call." to make that call." to make that call." I guess he called her. He's like, "Be I guess he called her. He's like, "Be I guess he called her. He's like, "Be quiet." So, it's like whatever. 100 quiet." So, it's like whatever. 100 quiet." So, it's like whatever. 100 people, 200 people. My Thai called. It's people, 200 people. My Thai called. It's people, 200 people. My Thai called. It's him picking up the phone. him picking up the phone. him picking up the phone. Hey, Hey, Hey, nothing. nothing. nothing. No, I'm just chilling. No, I'm just chilling. No, I'm just chilling. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I probably go to bed a couple >> Yeah, I probably go to bed a couple >> Yeah, I probably go to bed a couple hours. Like you too.

hours. Like you too. hours. Like you too. >> Even Prince. >> Even Prince. >> Even Prince. >> And then the party started, right? >> And then the party started, right? >> And then the party started, right? [laughter] Then it was like get off, you [laughter] Then it was like get off, you [laughter] Then it was like get off, you know, just like right away. [laughter] know, just like right away. [laughter] know, just like right away. [laughter] >> Even Prince has to make >> Even Prince has to make >> Even Prince has to make >> Even Even Prince. >> Even Even Prince. >> Even Even Prince. >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um >> Yeah. Um >> had the check-in. >> had the check-in. >> had the check-in. >> Do you think about what you you want the >> Do you think about what you you want the >> Do you think about what you you want the rest of your career to look like? rest of your career to look like? rest of your career to look like? because I I know you you said that you because I I know you you said that you because I I know you you said that you want to direct more films, but you know, want to direct more films, but you know, want to direct more films, but you know, you also talked about the idea of, you you also talked about the idea of, you you also talked about the idea of, you know, like a an expiration date, you know, like a an expiration date, you know, like a an expiration date, you know, and I I really think it's hard for know, and I I really think it's hard for know, and I I really think it's hard for comedian it can be hard for comedians to comedian it can be hard for comedians to comedian it can be hard for comedians to get older. get older. get older. >> It can be definitely hard for comedians >> It can be definitely hard for comedians >> It can be definitely hard for comedians to get older. Um, to get older. Um, to get older. Um, >> it's hard for for them to stay as edgy >> it's hard for for them to stay as edgy >> it's hard for for them to stay as edgy in the same ways they're thinking. in the same ways they're thinking. in the same ways they're thinking. >> Nobody stays edgy. You become the >> Nobody stays edgy. You become the >> Nobody stays edgy. You become the establishment. you just establishment. you just establishment. you just [sighs and gasps] [sighs and gasps] [sighs and gasps] uh you know there comes early in your uh you know there comes early in your uh you know there comes early in your career career career it's your performance it's whatever it's your performance it's whatever it's your performance it's whatever you're doing but it's also the promise you're doing but it's also the promise you're doing but it's also the promise of who you are so the public's like of who you are so the public's like of who you are so the public's like investing in this thing like this stock investing in this thing like this stock investing in this thing like this stock uh but later on you know you're like uh but later on you know you're like uh but later on you know you're like LeBron you're like it's all like it's LeBron you're like it's all like it's LeBron you're like it's all like it's all results and we'll give you a all results and we'll give you a all results and we'll give you a one-year deal as long as you play like one-year deal as long as you play like one-year deal as long as you play like LeBron you know what I mean Like so LeBron you know what I mean Like so LeBron you know what I mean Like so right now I I got to deal with the right now I I got to deal with the right now I I got to deal with the audience where it's like if it's good audience where it's like if it's good audience where it's like if it's good we'll see it. Chris, I don't know. I we'll see it. Chris, I don't know. I we'll see it. Chris, I don't know. I mean I've seen careers people change and mean I've seen careers people change and mean I've seen careers people change and I I mean Steve Martin's the king of like

I I mean Steve Martin's the king of like I I mean Steve Martin's the king of like reinvention. reinvention. reinvention. I just, you know, hearing you mention I just, you know, hearing you mention I just, you know, hearing you mention Steve Martin again spurs an idea for me Steve Martin again spurs an idea for me Steve Martin again spurs an idea for me about maybe changes in comedy where if about maybe changes in comedy where if about maybe changes in comedy where if you if you listen to a Steve Martin you if you listen to a Steve Martin you if you listen to a Steve Martin album or you watch old footage of him album or you watch old footage of him album or you watch old footage of him because of the style he of comedy he's because of the style he of comedy he's because of the style he of comedy he's doing which is so sort of absurdest and doing which is so sort of absurdest and doing which is so sort of absurdest and and whimsical you're you're never asking and whimsical you're you're never asking and whimsical you're you're never asking yourself does he really believe that. yourself does he really believe that. yourself does he really believe that. But now I think there's really it's But now I think there's really it's But now I think there's really it's almost like a a litmus test where almost like a a litmus test where almost like a a litmus test where audiences are asking whether they're audiences are asking whether they're audiences are asking whether they're saying it explicitly or not. Like does saying it explicitly or not. Like does saying it explicitly or not. Like does the comedian really believe what they're the comedian really believe what they're the comedian really believe what they're saying? Do you have when you're on stage saying? Do you have when you're on stage saying? Do you have when you're on stage telling jokes about about real life telling jokes about about real life telling jokes about about real life things about you know uh things in the things about you know uh things in the things about you know uh things in the news or or cultural things? Are we news or or cultural things? Are we news or or cultural things? Are we supposed to understand that you supposed to understand that you supposed to understand that you believe what you're saying or you're believe what you're saying or you're believe what you're saying or you're just saying what you need to say to to just saying what you need to say to to just saying what you need to say to to make the bit work? make the bit work? make the bit work? I mean, I mean, I mean, >> like where is there a distinction there >> like where is there a distinction there >> like where is there a distinction there that matters? that matters? that matters? >> I mean, jokes tend to work better when >> I mean, jokes tend to work better when >> I mean, jokes tend to work better when there's some truth in them, you know, there's some truth in them, you know, there's some truth in them, you know, when they, you know, when you're not when they, you know, when you're not when they, you know, when you're not just making up stuff. I think the just making up stuff. I think the just making up stuff. I think the audience can tell who's fake.

audience can tell who's fake. audience can tell who's fake. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, I I I just they can tell, you >> You know, I I I just they can tell, you >> You know, I I I just they can tell, you know, they can tell if you're married. know, they can tell if you're married. know, they can tell if you're married. They can tell if you got kids. They they They can tell if you got kids. They they They can tell if you got kids. They they can tell if you worked. They can tell. can tell if you worked. They can tell. can tell if you worked. They can tell. You can't fake anything. The thing about You can't fake anything. The thing about You can't fake anything. The thing about comedians there there's no mystique. comedians there there's no mystique. comedians there there's no mystique. You are who you are. You know what I You are who you are. You know what I You are who you are. You know what I mean? There's no there's no Ziggy mean? There's no there's no Ziggy mean? There's no there's no Ziggy Stardust of comedians. You know what I Stardust of comedians. You know what I Stardust of comedians. You know what I mean? Like you just kind of are who you mean? Like you just kind of are who you mean? Like you just kind of are who you are. Um so you know I think and and are. Um so you know I think and and are. Um so you know I think and and either you know they're rolling with you either you know they're rolling with you either you know they're rolling with you or not. or not. or not. >> Do you think you are who you are in your >> Do you think you are who you are in your >> Do you think you are who you are in your film work? I think what does Misty film work? I think what does Misty film work? I think what does Misty >> sometimes I am what I am in my film >> sometimes I am what I am in my film >> sometimes I am what I am in my film work. I think Misti work. I think Misti work. I think Misti is a good barometer of me right now. Um is a good barometer of me right now. Um is a good barometer of me right now. Um like anything I write I'm I'm Misty, you like anything I write I'm I'm Misty, you like anything I write I'm I'm Misty, you know what I mean? Like I'm like every know what I mean? Like I'm like every know what I mean? Like I'm like every character in the movie I've been on some character in the movie I've been on some character in the movie I've been on some level. Uh hopefully not the Adam Driver level. Uh hopefully not the Adam Driver level. Uh hopefully not the Adam Driver character. [laughter] character. [laughter] character. [laughter] He's like a guy who procure procures He's like a guy who procure procures He's like a guy who procure procures prostitutes for Saudi princes.

prostitutes for Saudi princes. prostitutes for Saudi princes. >> There is nothing different between the >> There is nothing different between the >> There is nothing different between the Adam Driver character in my movie and Adam Driver character in my movie and Adam Driver character in my movie and the Jack Lemon character in the the Jack Lemon character in the the Jack Lemon character in the >> apartment. Yeah. >> apartment. Yeah. >> apartment. Yeah. >> It's just an outfit and some hairstyle. >> It's just an outfit and some hairstyle. >> It's just an outfit and some hairstyle. >> Yeah. And the drugs >> Yeah. And the drugs >> Yeah. And the drugs >> like like Jack What the [ __ ] Alcohol is >> like like Jack What the [ __ ] Alcohol is >> like like Jack What the [ __ ] Alcohol is the biggest drug in the world. What are the biggest drug in the world. What are the biggest drug in the world. What are you talking about? you talking about? you talking about? >> See, you are leaving out your nuance. >> See, you are leaving out your nuance. >> See, you are leaving out your nuance. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. >> You literally are making my point in >> You literally are making my point in >> You literally are making my point in front of me. You conveniently made front of me. You conveniently made front of me. You conveniently made yourself stupid to make a point. yourself stupid to make a point. yourself stupid to make a point. >> Well, I never conveniently make myself >> Well, I never conveniently make myself >> Well, I never conveniently make myself stupid. I just stupid. I just stupid. I just >> It's on camera. YOU GOT FIVE [ __ ] >> It's on camera. YOU GOT FIVE [ __ ] >> It's on camera. YOU GOT FIVE [ __ ] CAMERAS HERE. You just did it. CAMERAS HERE. You just did it. CAMERAS HERE. You just did it. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Also, I I'm willing to >> Also, I I'm willing to >> Also, I I'm willing to >> You just did it. You're so much smarter >> You just did it. You're so much smarter >> You just did it. You're so much smarter than that. If people [laughter] are than that. If people [laughter] are than that. If people [laughter] are like, "Oh, David left out the nuance of like, "Oh, David left out the nuance of like, "Oh, David left out the nuance of what uh what drug Lemon was using in the what uh what drug Lemon was using in the what uh what drug Lemon was using in the apartment." I'll I'll tell you that Jack apartment." I'll I'll tell you that Jack apartment." I'll I'll tell you that Jack Lemon was basically the same character. Lemon was basically the same character. Lemon was basically the same character. And you have this [ __ ] love for The And you have this [ __ ] love for The And you have this [ __ ] love for The Apartment, which is deserved. It's one Apartment, which is deserved. It's one Apartment, which is deserved. It's one of the best movies ever, [laughter] of the best movies ever, [laughter] of the best movies ever, [laughter] but that's what he was. He was a [ __ ] but that's what he was. He was a [ __ ] but that's what he was. He was a [ __ ] pimp.

pimp. pimp. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're right. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're right. >> Yeah. Yeah. I guess you're right. [laughter] Um, I don't know where to go [laughter] Um, I don't know where to go [laughter] Um, I don't know where to go from that. But from that. But from that. But >> so [ __ ] Jack Leven is a pimp. A pimp >> so [ __ ] Jack Leven is a pimp. A pimp >> so [ __ ] Jack Leven is a pimp. A pimp in the apartment. He's a lovable pimp. in the apartment. He's a lovable pimp. in the apartment. He's a lovable pimp. He's a charming pimp, He's a charming pimp, He's a charming pimp, >> but a pimp nonetheless. >> but a pimp nonetheless. >> but a pimp nonetheless. >> But a pimp nonetheless. >> But a pimp nonetheless. >> But a pimp nonetheless. >> Um, in so many ways we all are. >> Um, in so many ways we all are. >> Um, in so many ways we all are. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Or hose. [laughter] Mostly hose. But, >> Or hose. [laughter] Mostly hose. But, >> Or hose. [laughter] Mostly hose. But, uh, uh, uh, >> Chris, I you know, I really appreciate >> Chris, I you know, I really appreciate >> Chris, I you know, I really appreciate you taking all the time to talk with me you taking all the time to talk with me you taking all the time to talk with me today. today. today. >> Call me in three weeks. Hey, is this the >> Call me in three weeks. Hey, is this the >> Call me in three weeks. Hey, is this the one where they they do a follow-up? one where they they do a follow-up? one where they they do a follow-up? >> Yeah, if that's okay. >> Yeah, if that's okay. >> Yeah, if that's okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll play by the rules >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll play by the rules >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'll play by the rules >> starting now. >> starting now. >> starting now. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> On the interview, we talked to our guest >> On the interview, we talked to our guest >> On the interview, we talked to our guest twice. [music] So, a couple weeks later, twice. [music] So, a couple weeks later, twice. [music] So, a couple weeks later, I spoke with Rock again and he shared I spoke with Rock again and he shared I spoke with Rock again and he shared his thoughts on the so-called woke 1.0 his thoughts on the so-called woke 1.0 his thoughts on the so-called woke 1.0 era. era. era. >> Chris, thank you for taking the time to >> Chris, thank you for taking the time to >> Chris, thank you for taking the time to speak with me again. I appreciate it. speak with me again. I appreciate it. speak with me again. I appreciate it. >> Sure. Um, and I I might sort of pinball >> Sure. Um, and I I might sort of pinball >> Sure. Um, and I I might sort of pinball around a little bit because I got a lot around a little bit because I got a lot around a little bit because I got a lot of stuff I want to ask you about. You of stuff I want to ask you about. You of stuff I want to ask you about. You know, before we we spoke initially, I know, before we we spoke initially, I know, before we we spoke initially, I had asked if you could send over the had asked if you could send over the had asked if you could send over the names of some films that were kind of names of some films that were kind of names of some films that were kind of influential on on Misty Green, and you influential on on Misty Green, and you influential on on Misty Green, and you sent over a list that um included sent over a list that um included sent over a list that um included Cabaret, of course, the great Bob Fy Cabaret, of course, the great Bob Fy Cabaret, of course, the great Bob Fy film, Bad Lieutenant, the Abel Ferrara film, Bad Lieutenant, the Abel Ferrara film, Bad Lieutenant, the Abel Ferrara movie, Clute, uh the great uh Jane Fonda movie, Clute, uh the great uh Jane Fonda movie, Clute, uh the great uh Jane Fonda performance in that. Can can you tell me performance in that. Can can you tell me performance in that. Can can you tell me a little bit about what those films in a little bit about what those films in a little bit about what those films in particular, how they helped you shape particular, how they helped you shape particular, how they helped you shape your vision for your movie?

your vision for your movie? your vision for your movie? >> I mean, there there's a great line in uh >> I mean, there there's a great line in uh >> I mean, there there's a great line in uh Husbands and Wives, Husbands and Wives, Husbands and Wives, >> the Woody Allen film. >> the Woody Allen film. >> the Woody Allen film. >> Yeah. Woody He's playing a professor. >> Yeah. Woody He's playing a professor. >> Yeah. Woody He's playing a professor. He's playing a writing professor and He's playing a writing professor and He's playing a writing professor and he's is the line is something to do with he's is the line is something to do with he's is the line is something to do with uh you can't teach people to write. All uh you can't teach people to write. All uh you can't teach people to write. All you can do is expose them to great you can do is expose them to great you can do is expose them to great writing and hope they pick up on it, you writing and hope they pick up on it, you writing and hope they pick up on it, you know. And know. And know. And it's just kind of the same thing with it's just kind of the same thing with it's just kind of the same thing with film, you know. You can't teach a person film, you know. You can't teach a person film, you know. You can't teach a person really to make a good movie. You just really to make a good movie. You just really to make a good movie. You just got to show them some good movies and got to show them some good movies and got to show them some good movies and hope that they uh they run with it. uh hope that they uh they run with it. uh hope that they uh they run with it. uh all of those movies, especially the FSY all of those movies, especially the FSY all of those movies, especially the FSY stuff, you know, like I mean I said stuff, you know, like I mean I said stuff, you know, like I mean I said Cabaret and Misty Green is like uh Cabaret and Misty Green is like uh Cabaret and Misty Green is like uh what's the what's the Lelli? What's her what's the what's the Lelli? What's her what's the what's the Lelli? What's her name? name? name? >> Sally Bowls. >> Sally Bowls. >> Sally Bowls. >> Yeah, there's a lot of Sally BS in that. >> Yeah, there's a lot of Sally BS in that. >> Yeah, there's a lot of Sally BS in that. Ruden told me to watch Cabaret. Uh but Ruden told me to watch Cabaret. Uh but Ruden told me to watch Cabaret. Uh but also there's a lot of Lenny in this also there's a lot of Lenny in this also there's a lot of Lenny in this degree.

degree. degree. >> Bob FY's Lenny Bruce biopic. Yeah. >> Bob FY's Lenny Bruce biopic. Yeah. >> Bob FY's Lenny Bruce biopic. Yeah. Starring Dustin Hoffman. Starring Dustin Hoffman. Starring Dustin Hoffman. >> Yeah. with Dustin Hoffman. Like there's >> Yeah. with Dustin Hoffman. Like there's >> Yeah. with Dustin Hoffman. Like there's a lot of Lenny in Misty Green, you know. a lot of Lenny in Misty Green, you know. a lot of Lenny in Misty Green, you know. Uh all I can say is I love those movies. Uh all I can say is I love those movies. Uh all I can say is I love those movies. And you know, if you love them enough, And you know, if you love them enough, And you know, if you love them enough, you know, if they feed, my mother would you know, if they feed, my mother would you know, if they feed, my mother would always say, if you feed a kid long always say, if you feed a kid long always say, if you feed a kid long enough, he starts to look like you. You enough, he starts to look like you. You enough, he starts to look like you. You know, [laughter] and if you love movies know, [laughter] and if you love movies know, [laughter] and if you love movies hard enough, you'll eventually make that hard enough, you'll eventually make that hard enough, you'll eventually make that kind of movie. You know what I Wait, did kind of movie. You know what I Wait, did kind of movie. You know what I Wait, did FSY direct Star 80? FSY direct Star 80? FSY direct Star 80? >> Uh, yeah, Star. It's a lot. Star 80 is >> Uh, yeah, Star. It's a lot. Star 80 is >> Uh, yeah, Star. It's a lot. Star 80 is go to Yeah, that also has some like just go to Yeah, that also has some like just go to Yeah, that also has some like just in terms of an LA Hollywood movie. in terms of an LA Hollywood movie. in terms of an LA Hollywood movie. >> Star 80. Yes, I'm forgetting Star 80. >> Star 80. Yes, I'm forgetting Star 80. >> Star 80. Yes, I'm forgetting Star 80. Yeah, it's a lot of How could I forget Yeah, it's a lot of How could I forget Yeah, it's a lot of How could I forget Star 80? It's It's so Star. Uh, so yeah, Star 80? It's It's so Star. Uh, so yeah, Star 80? It's It's so Star. Uh, so yeah, the FSY stuff more than anything I would the FSY stuff more than anything I would the FSY stuff more than anything I would say is has been an influence. say is has been an influence. say is has been an influence. There's a a line in the movie that I There's a a line in the movie that I There's a a line in the movie that I wanted to ask you about, which is it's wanted to ask you about, which is it's wanted to ask you about, which is it's sort of just a um it's it's said almost sort of just a um it's it's said almost sort of just a um it's it's said almost uh off-hand in the film, but it's uh off-hand in the film, but it's uh off-hand in the film, but it's actually kind of a heavy line where um actually kind of a heavy line where um actually kind of a heavy line where um >> I think it's it's the character that you >> I think it's it's the character that you >> I think it's it's the character that you play in the film says to Misty, "True play in the film says to Misty, "True play in the film says to Misty, "True love starts with forgiveness."

love starts with forgiveness." love starts with forgiveness." >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Is is that is that your experience of >> Is is that is that your experience of >> Is is that is that your experience of forgiveness? forgiveness? forgiveness? >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh well, okay. I think well, okay. I think well, okay. I think yeah, you don't it's put this way. You yeah, you don't it's put this way. You yeah, you don't it's put this way. You don't really realize if you love don't really realize if you love don't really realize if you love somebody until you have to forgive them. somebody until you have to forgive them. somebody until you have to forgive them. I can enjoy myself with just about I can enjoy myself with just about I can enjoy myself with just about anybody. anybody. anybody. You know, I really can. You know, I I You know, I really can. You know, I I You know, I really can. You know, I I absolutely absolutely absolutely a thousand% can. It's like, you want to a thousand% can. It's like, you want to a thousand% can. It's like, you want to go see Bruno Mars? It's hard to have a go see Bruno Mars? It's hard to have a go see Bruno Mars? It's hard to have a bad time if you're a decent person. It's bad time if you're a decent person. It's bad time if you're a decent person. It's when somebody tests you, when somebody when somebody tests you, when somebody when somebody tests you, when somebody betrays you, when somebody lets you down betrays you, when somebody lets you down betrays you, when somebody lets you down and you still want to be around them and you still want to be around them and you still want to be around them and and and maybe you see maybe you see maybe you see maybe you see um what they were being maybe you see um what they were being maybe you see um what they were being faced with. That's now you know and if faced with. That's now you know and if faced with. That's now you know and if you elect to proceed now that's love.

you elect to proceed now that's love. you elect to proceed now that's love. Um, I have a friend that's going to be Um, I have a friend that's going to be Um, I have a friend that's going to be nameless that, you know, might have nameless that, you know, might have nameless that, you know, might have gotten cancelled or whatever, right? And gotten cancelled or whatever, right? And gotten cancelled or whatever, right? And a another friend of mine was like, a another friend of mine was like, a another friend of mine was like, "Well, what how can you be friends with "Well, what how can you be friends with "Well, what how can you be friends with that person?" And I was like, "Well, if that person?" And I was like, "Well, if that person?" And I was like, "Well, if if you're only friends with your friends if you're only friends with your friends if you're only friends with your friends when they're good, they're not your when they're good, they're not your when they're good, they're not your friends." You know, if you got a bunch friends." You know, if you got a bunch friends." You know, if you got a bunch of people that are only going to be of people that are only going to be of people that are only going to be there when you're good, you have no there when you're good, you have no there when you're good, you have no friends. friends. friends. [snorts] Okay. And that doesn't mean, [snorts] Okay. And that doesn't mean, [snorts] Okay. And that doesn't mean, you know, condoning you know, condoning you know, condoning uh, you know, abusive behavior uh, you know, abusive behavior uh, you know, abusive behavior cuz you can reprimand your friends. You cuz you can reprimand your friends. You cuz you can reprimand your friends. You can go up to one of your friends and go, can go up to one of your friends and go, can go up to one of your friends and go, "Hey, [ __ ] what are you doing?" "Hey, [ __ ] what are you doing?" "Hey, [ __ ] what are you doing?" Uh, that's also part of friendship. Uh, that's also part of friendship. Uh, that's also part of friendship. So, um, So, um, So, um, >> but we all have a line, right? Just >> but we all have a line, right? Just >> but we all have a line, right? Just there. there. there. >> We all I mean, you you and I live in >> We all I mean, you you and I live in >> We all I mean, you you and I live in different worlds, dude. I got friends different worlds, dude. I got friends different worlds, dude. I got friends that are in jail. I got friends that are that are in jail. I got friends that are that are in jail. I got friends that are drugged out. I don't live like you.

drugged out. I don't live like you. drugged out. I don't live like you. >> You You don't know that that that's >> You You don't know that that that's >> You You don't know that that that's >> I can tell. I can listen. I can totally >> I can tell. I can listen. I can totally >> I can tell. I can listen. I can totally tell. tell. tell. >> I mean, you happen to be right. But >> I mean, you happen to be right. But >> I mean, you happen to be right. But >> And by the way, I'm not I'm not being >> And by the way, I'm not I'm not being >> And by the way, I'm not I'm not being dismissive of you. I'm just saying you dismissive of you. I'm just saying you dismissive of you. I'm just saying you just, you know, I've had to, you know, just, you know, I've had to, you know, just, you know, I've had to, you know, I've had to, you know, my friends have I've had to, you know, my friends have I've had to, you know, my friends have tested me more than yours. And maybe tested me more than yours. And maybe tested me more than yours. And maybe I've tested them. Who knows? You know, I've tested them. Who knows? You know, I've tested them. Who knows? You know, uh, but, you know, I don't know. Um, I uh, but, you know, I don't know. Um, I uh, but, you know, I don't know. Um, I I'm not religious, I'm not religious, I'm not religious, uh, but I'm, you know, I'm a Christian uh, but I'm, you know, I'm a Christian uh, but I'm, you know, I'm a Christian and God forgives. and God forgives. and God forgives. That's what it's all about. The problem That's what it's all about. The problem That's what it's all about. The problem with, you know, quote unquote wokeness. with, you know, quote unquote wokeness. with, you know, quote unquote wokeness. And don't get me wrong, it is great that And don't get me wrong, it is great that And don't get me wrong, it is great that marginalized people uh have a voice. It marginalized people uh have a voice. It marginalized people uh have a voice. It is great to advocate for uh anybody that is great to advocate for uh anybody that is great to advocate for uh anybody that feels marginalized. This is great. But feels marginalized. This is great. But feels marginalized. This is great. But the problem with wokeness is we're in the problem with wokeness is we're in the problem with wokeness is we're in the Old Testament right now. Okay? And the Old Testament right now. Okay? And the Old Testament right now. Okay? And the Old Testament has no forgiveness.

the Old Testament has no forgiveness. the Old Testament has no forgiveness. The Old Testament didn't work. So they The Old Testament didn't work. So they The Old Testament didn't work. So they had to write a remix called the New had to write a remix called the New had to write a remix called the New Testament. Testament. Testament. >> There's been this discussion lately >> There's been this discussion lately >> There's been this discussion lately about how the woke 1.0 era, which I about how the woke 1.0 era, which I about how the woke 1.0 era, which I think refers to sort of the immediate uh think refers to sort of the immediate uh think refers to sort of the immediate uh post George Floyd era was, you know, post George Floyd era was, you know, post George Floyd era was, you know, crazy. people say, you know, woke 1.0 crazy. people say, you know, woke 1.0 crazy. people say, you know, woke 1.0 was was crazy and like uh you know, AOC was was crazy and like uh you know, AOC was was crazy and like uh you know, AOC distancing herself from that and and distancing herself from that and and distancing herself from that and and other um Democratic politicians doing other um Democratic politicians doing other um Democratic politicians doing the same thing and and I just wonder do the same thing and and I just wonder do the same thing and and I just wonder do like do you see that moment in time is like do you see that moment in time is like do you see that moment in time is just like that was just a crazy moment just like that was just a crazy moment just like that was just a crazy moment in time or was there anything redeeming in time or was there anything redeeming in time or was there anything redeeming about it? I about it? I about it? I >> I ju I think I just answered it, you >> I ju I think I just answered it, you >> I ju I think I just answered it, you know? Uh know? Uh know? Uh again, it's great to help those that again, it's great to help those that again, it's great to help those that need help. That is an amazing, you know, need help. That is an amazing, you know, need help. That is an amazing, you know, we need more of that. Uh the problem is we need more of that. Uh the problem is we need more of that. Uh the problem is is when you institutionalize it, is when you institutionalize it, is when you institutionalize it, you know, that's the the problem. You you know, that's the the problem. You you know, that's the the problem. You know, so my half a joke, the Salem witch know, so my half a joke, the Salem witch know, so my half a joke, the Salem witch hunts, I'm sure, you know, the first hunts, I'm sure, you know, the first hunts, I'm sure, you know, the first three witches they caught were actually three witches they caught were actually three witches they caught were actually [ __ ] witches.

[ __ ] witches. [ __ ] witches. But then you open up a witch office and But then you open up a witch office and But then you open up a witch office and now you got to start lying. now you got to start lying. now you got to start lying. Now you gotta [ __ ] make [ __ ] up Now you gotta [ __ ] make [ __ ] up Now you gotta [ __ ] make [ __ ] up because you got overhead. because you got overhead. because you got overhead. >> You have to justify paying the witch >> You have to justify paying the witch >> You have to justify paying the witch hunters. hunters. hunters. >> Yeah, you got to justify the witch >> Yeah, you got to justify the witch >> Yeah, you got to justify the witch hunters [ __ ] pensions and [ __ ] So hunters [ __ ] pensions and [ __ ] So hunters [ __ ] pensions and [ __ ] So yeah, man. It's all good. I'm glad I'm yeah, man. It's all good. I'm glad I'm yeah, man. It's all good. I'm glad I'm glad that all of this stuff happened. It glad that all of this stuff happened. It glad that all of this stuff happened. It needed to happen, needed to happen, needed to happen, you know. you know. you know. And because it happened, maybe I've And because it happened, maybe I've And because it happened, maybe I've heard some voices that I probably heard some voices that I probably heard some voices that I probably wouldn't have heard otherwise. wouldn't have heard otherwise. wouldn't have heard otherwise. Let me [clears throat] let me switch Let me [clears throat] let me switch Let me [clears throat] let me switch gears and ask a a comedy question if gears and ask a a comedy question if gears and ask a a comedy question if that's okay. that's okay. that's okay. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> before you even because I keep saying >> before you even because I keep saying >> before you even because I keep saying how bad my friends are. I have some how bad my friends are. I have some how bad my friends are. I have some amazing friends too. [laughter] I have amazing friends too. [laughter] I have amazing friends too. [laughter] I have some genius friends. I have some of some genius friends. I have some of some genius friends. I have some of unproatic unproatic unproatic most uh progressive most uh progressive most uh progressive most [laughter] most [laughter] most [laughter] some of the greatest artists that have some of the greatest artists that have some of the greatest artists that have ever lived. Some that you know of and ever lived. Some that you know of and ever lived. Some that you know of and don't are my friends. So, don't are my friends. So, don't are my friends. So, >> all right. On the record, some of the >> all right. On the record, some of the >> all right. On the record, some of the Chris Rock's friends are perfectly fine Chris Rock's friends are perfectly fine Chris Rock's friends are perfectly fine people.

people. people. >> Just some perfect perfectly fine people. >> Just some perfect perfectly fine people. >> Just some perfect perfectly fine people. >> Um, all right. So, what you know, one >> Um, all right. So, what you know, one >> Um, all right. So, what you know, one thing I always wanted to ask uh a great thing I always wanted to ask uh a great thing I always wanted to ask uh a great comedian is do do you think you comedian is do do you think you comedian is do do you think you understand what the purpose of laughter understand what the purpose of laughter understand what the purpose of laughter is? Like why why is? Like why why is? Like why why do we laugh at stuff? Why do we need do we laugh at stuff? Why do we need do we laugh at stuff? Why do we need comedy? comedy? comedy? >> Uh, I never thought about it that hard. >> Uh, I never thought about it that hard. >> Uh, I never thought about it that hard. Uh, here's what I do know. Yeah. Uh, here's what I do know. Yeah. Uh, here's what I do know. Yeah. >> The greatest feelings in life are sex >> The greatest feelings in life are sex >> The greatest feelings in life are sex and laughter. and laughter. and laughter. And we break up with people that we have And we break up with people that we have And we break up with people that we have great sex with all the time. We don't great sex with all the time. We don't great sex with all the time. We don't break up with anybody that makes us break up with anybody that makes us break up with anybody that makes us laugh. laugh. laugh. Okay? We try we figure that [ __ ] out if Okay? We try we figure that [ __ ] out if Okay? We try we figure that [ __ ] out if somebody makes us laugh. And the ability somebody makes us laugh. And the ability somebody makes us laugh. And the ability to laugh at oneself to laugh at oneself to laugh at oneself is probably the highest form of is probably the highest form of is probably the highest form of intelligence. intelligence. intelligence. And the inability to laugh at oneself is And the inability to laugh at oneself is And the inability to laugh at oneself is a sure sign you're dealing with an a sure sign you're dealing with an a sure sign you're dealing with an idiot. [laughter] idiot. [laughter] idiot. [laughter] >> Uh Chris, what just either >> Uh Chris, what just either >> Uh Chris, what just either professionally or personally like what professionally or personally like what professionally or personally like what keeps you up at night right now?

keeps you up at night right now? keeps you up at night right now? >> What do you mean? No. >> What do you mean? No. >> What do you mean? No. >> Like what do you go to bed worrying >> Like what do you go to bed worrying >> Like what do you go to bed worrying about? about? about? >> I don't worry about anything. I mean, >> I don't worry about anything. I mean, >> I don't worry about anything. I mean, everyone worries about something. everyone worries about something. everyone worries about something. >> I'm not worried about nothing, dude. I >> I'm not worried about nothing, dude. I >> I'm not worried about nothing, dude. I worry about my kids that they're, you worry about my kids that they're, you worry about my kids that they're, you know, you know, your kids, especially my know, you know, your kids, especially my know, you know, your kids, especially my oldest doesn't live with me. Uh, so I oldest doesn't live with me. Uh, so I oldest doesn't live with me. Uh, so I worry about my kids, but the world, the worry about my kids, but the world, the worry about my kids, but the world, the world is the world, dude. The world is world is the world, dude. The world is world is the world, dude. The world is exactly what it wants to be. Uh, it's exactly what it wants to be. Uh, it's exactly what it wants to be. Uh, it's sad where it's sad. It's happy where sad where it's sad. It's happy where sad where it's sad. It's happy where it's happy. Uh, it's happy. Uh, it's happy. Uh, but this is what people want. but this is what people want. but this is what people want. >> Wait, what do you mean this is what >> Wait, what do you mean this is what >> Wait, what do you mean this is what people want? people want? people want? >> This is what people want. People have >> This is what people want. People have >> This is what people want. People have the America they want, you know, and if the America they want, you know, and if the America they want, you know, and if they want to change it, we'll see. And they want to change it, we'll see. And they want to change it, we'll see. And >> do you like it? >> do you like it? >> do you like it? >> Is it the America you want? >> Is it the America you want? >> Is it the America you want? >> Uh, you know, no. It's, you know, I'm >> Uh, you know, no. It's, you know, I'm >> Uh, you know, no. It's, you know, I'm I've been here a while. I have a long I've been here a while. I have a long I've been here a while. I have a long sample size. You know, Martin Luther sample size. You know, Martin Luther sample size. You know, Martin Luther King was shot in 1968. King was shot in 1968. King was shot in 1968. Black people pretty much live where Black people pretty much live where Black people pretty much live where black people lived in 1968, especially black people lived in 1968, especially black people lived in 1968, especially in New York City. We're kind, you know, in New York City. We're kind, you know, in New York City. We're kind, you know, maybe a neighborhood or two is maybe a neighborhood or two is maybe a neighborhood or two is gentrified that wasn't. Maybe Beyonce gentrified that wasn't. Maybe Beyonce gentrified that wasn't. Maybe Beyonce has more points on her deal than Artha has more points on her deal than Artha has more points on her deal than Artha Franklin, but that is Franklin, but that is Franklin, but that is for the most part, you know, the real for the most part, you know, the real for the most part, you know, the real real real change. you know, people are real real change. you know, people are real real change. you know, people are nicer, people, you know, blatant

nicer, people, you know, blatant nicer, people, you know, blatant disrespect in the streets doesn't happen disrespect in the streets doesn't happen disrespect in the streets doesn't happen like it did in 1968. like it did in 1968. like it did in 1968. But, you know, the distribution of But, you know, the distribution of But, you know, the distribution of wealth, the the access to education, the wealth, the the access to education, the wealth, the the access to education, the access to health care is pretty much access to health care is pretty much access to health care is pretty much where it was when Dr. King got shot. Uh, where it was when Dr. King got shot. Uh, where it was when Dr. King got shot. Uh, and I could say that about other places and I could say that about other places and I could say that about other places in the world, too. in the world, too. in the world, too. And let me try and ask the hopefully And let me try and ask the hopefully And let me try and ask the hopefully more um more um more um >> you know and somehow I got out of it. >> you know and somehow I got out of it. >> you know and somehow I got out of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But you know Louisie Armstrong was the >> But you know Louisie Armstrong was the >> But you know Louisie Armstrong was the most famous singer in the world in the most famous singer in the world in the most famous singer in the world in the 30s and 40s. So black entertainers have 30s and 40s. So black entertainers have 30s and 40s. So black entertainers have always you know kind of gotten off the always you know kind of gotten off the always you know kind of gotten off the Titanic before everybody else. Titanic before everybody else. Titanic before everybody else. And let me try and end with um well what And let me try and end with um well what And let me try and end with um well what is intended to be sort of a more hopeful is intended to be sort of a more hopeful is intended to be sort of a more hopeful ending. It's a flip side to the what ending. It's a flip side to the what ending. It's a flip side to the what >> Hey Misty Green [laughter] October 9th.

>> Hey Misty Green [laughter] October 9th. >> Hey Misty Green [laughter] October 9th. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> sexy movie. [laughter] >> sexy movie. [laughter] >> sexy movie. [laughter] >> Wait, let me ask a question. [gasps] >> Wait, let me ask a question. [gasps] >> Wait, let me ask a question. [gasps] It's a flip side. It's a flip side. It's a flip side. >> 24. Those guys are great. [laughter] No >> 24. Those guys are great. [laughter] No >> 24. Those guys are great. [laughter] No impression there. Wait, let me ask the question. You know, Wait, let me ask the question. You know, I just asked like sort of what keeps you I just asked like sort of what keeps you I just asked like sort of what keeps you up at night. What What gets you up in up at night. What What gets you up in up at night. What What gets you up in the morning? What are you most excited the morning? What are you most excited the morning? What are you most excited about? about? about? >> I'm You know, it's weird. I'm excited >> I'm You know, it's weird. I'm excited >> I'm You know, it's weird. I'm excited every morning. It's my favorite time of every morning. It's my favorite time of every morning. It's my favorite time of the day. It's my favorite time to get up the day. It's my favorite time to get up the day. It's my favorite time to get up and take my walk and get my fruit and, and take my walk and get my fruit and, and take my walk and get my fruit and, [snorts] you know, listen to the news a [snorts] you know, listen to the news a [snorts] you know, listen to the news a little bit. Uh, you know, because every little bit. Uh, you know, because every little bit. Uh, you know, because every day can be great. You never know what's day can be great. You never know what's day can be great. You never know what's going to happen. Even even when you know going to happen. Even even when you know going to happen. Even even when you know what's gonna happen, you don't know what's gonna happen, you don't know what's gonna happen, you don't know what's going to happen. So, I wake up what's going to happen. So, I wake up what's going to happen. So, I wake up pretty happy, man. I wake up pretty pretty happy, man. I wake up pretty pretty happy, man. I wake up pretty optimistic optimistic optimistic on most days. And I'm very fortunate. on most days. And I'm very fortunate. on most days. And I'm very fortunate. I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm not going to sit here and act like I'm not going to sit here and act like my experience is everybody's. my experience is everybody's. my experience is everybody's. >> I I really appreciate you taking all the >> I I really appreciate you taking all the >> I I really appreciate you taking all the time to to speak with me, Chris, and I I time to to speak with me, Chris, and I I time to to speak with me, Chris, and I I enjoyed it a lot. So, I especially enjoyed it a lot. So, I especially enjoyed it a lot. So, I especially enjoyed it when you pushed back at me.

enjoyed it when you pushed back at me. enjoyed it when you pushed back at me. So, thank you for that. So, thank you for that. So, thank you for that. >> Oh, man. This is uh that's that's always >> Oh, man. This is uh that's that's always >> Oh, man. This is uh that's that's always where the good stuff is. I I'll leave where the good stuff is. I I'll leave where the good stuff is. I I'll leave you on this. Like a friend of mine, and you on this. Like a friend of mine, and you on this. Like a friend of mine, and I hope I didn't tell you this. A friend I hope I didn't tell you this. A friend I hope I didn't tell you this. A friend of mine called me up. She was uh working of mine called me up. She was uh working of mine called me up. She was uh working on her special and she said, "I had a on her special and she said, "I had a on her special and she said, "I had a hard time writing material." And I said, hard time writing material." And I said, hard time writing material." And I said, "Well, you have this podcast and what I "Well, you have this podcast and what I "Well, you have this podcast and what I need you to do is go to your podcast and need you to do is go to your podcast and need you to do is go to your podcast and every every every hard episode, that's where the material hard episode, that's where the material hard episode, that's where the material is. is. is. Everyone you thought was a hard time, Everyone you thought was a hard time, Everyone you thought was a hard time, that's where the good [ __ ] is. So, if that's where the good [ __ ] is. So, if that's where the good [ __ ] is. So, if I've given you a hard time, this is the I've given you a hard time, this is the I've given you a hard time, this is the good [ __ ] good [ __ ] good [ __ ] >> All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Take it easy. [music] >> That's Chris Rock. His new movie, Misty >> That's Chris Rock. His new movie, Misty Green, will be in theaters on October Green, will be in theaters on October Green, will be in theaters on October 9th. To watch this interview and many 9th. To watch this interview and many 9th. To watch this interview and many others, subscribe to our YouTube channel others, subscribe to our YouTube channel others, subscribe to our YouTube channel at youtube.com/syolthe podcast. This conversation was produced podcast. This conversation was produced by [music] Pa Nudorf. It was edited by by [music] Pa Nudorf. It was edited by by [music] Pa Nudorf. It was edited by Allison Benedict. Mixing by Sophia Allison Benedict. Mixing by Sophia Allison Benedict. Mixing by Sophia Landman. [music] Original music by Dan Landman. [music] Original music by Dan Landman. [music] Original music by Dan Powell, Rowan Nemisto, and Marian Powell, Rowan Nemisto, and Marian Powell, Rowan Nemisto, and Marian Lozano. The rest of the team is Pria Lozano. The rest of the team is Pria Lozano. The rest of the team is Pria Matthew, Seth Kelly, [music] Joe Munoz, Matthew, Seth Kelly, [music] Joe Munoz, Matthew, Seth Kelly, [music] Joe Munoz, Wyatt Orm, Jeremy Rocklin, Gabby Wyatt Orm, Jeremy Rocklin, Gabby Wyatt Orm, Jeremy Rocklin, Gabby Contrarus, and Kathleen O'Brien. Our Contrarus, and Kathleen O'Brien. Our Contrarus, and Kathleen O'Brien. Our executive producer is Allison Benedict.

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